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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 09 October 2006 :  17:35:56  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
yes you are wrong. we can't do everything at once, and a maintenace release fixing several current security issues was required, that has just been released, people are now working on other code modifications. It would be unwise to say when the next release will be since that depends when they finish doing what they are doing so I'm afraid you will just have to wait patiently until it happens, otherwise I will give you a date and you will just gripe and moan when a release doesn't arrive by that date.<
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cladon
Junior Member

Belgium
110 Posts

Posted - 09 October 2006 :  18:02:03  Show Profile
I ame glad to hear that I ame wrong. Huwr and the development team "You haven't to do everything at one" but the community has the right th know how the progress is of the new release.

It is like a new product - you have to inform the people. You may not say "Wait and see"<
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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 09 October 2006 :  18:34:39  Show Profile
The next version is currently being worked on, but it won't be version 4 yet. More likely 3.5. We are mostly working to implement features to help forum admins combat the rise of spam and help keep their community spam free from pesky spammers. It also laying down the ground work for the multi-language update in version 4.<

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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 09 October 2006 :  19:03:39  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by cladon

I ame glad to hear that I ame wrong. Huwr and the development team "You haven't to do everything at one" but the community has the right th know how the progress is of the new release.

It is like a new product - you have to inform the people. You may not say "Wait and see"


Ok, then I will state wrongly that it will be released in a week, hows that, perhaps you should make up a date too and see who is nearest like I said it ain't possible, and unlike microsoft we are not in the habit of making a date for release and then changing it half a dozen times, when I say we don't know that is precisely because we don't know. everyone who works on this project does so in their own SPARE time, it is thus not possible to give or make a deadline for it's completion.<
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cladon
Junior Member

Belgium
110 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  04:34:16  Show Profile
Oké now it is clear. One last point a deadline for it's completion is not what I ask. I just ask to inform us on a regular base. Mybe it is better to close this topic then nobody can ask how it is with Release 4.

Maybe it is better to release in the normal way 3.5, 3.6, 3.7, 3.8, 3.9 and at last 4.0
Snitz is a good thing - there are a lot people who translate the code to there owne language. They always asked to themself shall I translate or not? Do i have to wait ...

For me it is closed.<
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  05:02:07  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
Have you looked at Image's latest release it is the current forum with language packs, not sure whether he has a belgian translation though<
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cladon
Junior Member

Belgium
110 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  05:17:56  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

Have you looked at Image's latest release it is the current forum with language packs, not sure whether he has a belgian translation though


Yes indeed - i was started with the Belgium translation. I have stopped the translation. Because at that moment this topic was very hot and the intention was then to release version 4.

Image is not using the same technology as release 4. This means double work. Translating is a hell of a work to do.

Coding is also a hell of a work - I know it.<
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laser
Advanced Member

Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  05:32:32  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Davio

The next version is currently being worked on, but it won't be version 4 yet. More likely 3.5. We are mostly working to implement features to help forum admins combat the rise of spam and help keep their community spam free from pesky spammers. It also laying down the ground work for the multi-language update in version 4.

All the indications for the last (several??) years has been that the next version will be 4.x with languages and the like. I think it's about time that a PUBLIC roadmap was released. Even if it doesn't have dates on it, it will be better than the greater community wandering down a dark alley through a maze in the blind hope that one day they will find the light at the exit.

And Image's version of Snitz ? I've tried it, but there were far too many bugs to contend with. I'm probably different to a lot of other people on here. I don't want the languages in v.4, I want the local timezone settings for my users. I can see how the language options are vital to other people.

So please, how about a roadmap, even if it is :

v.3.5 CAPTCHA on all forms
v.3.6 IP cross-matching (standard)
v.3.8 Integrate the 5 most popular MODs with Admin control (on/off)
v.4.0 Language translation and local timezone settings.

with no dates !<
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  05:40:46  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
Have you read this whole topic, or even tried using the search ? the roadmap for version 4 has been posted many times

CAPTCHA's will never be added they are totally incompatible with all current usability standards and guidelines
IP cross-matching ?? explain
Integrate the 5 most popular MODs - since nobody can agree on what they are that is a bit difficult

There is also a .Net 2.0 version in the pipeline (oops, shouldn't have mentioned that)not anymore there isn't<
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laser
Advanced Member

Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  05:50:29  Show Profile
quote:
Have you read this whole topic
Have you ??? ... this thread was started over 1 year ago, and mentions a v.4 beta being several years old. So in 12 months we've basically gone nowhere. Even the might ruirib promises to basically "spill the beans" on what is happenning, then doesn't really say anything anyway. I joined here several years ago because there was an amazing bunch of people working on an awesome product, most of those have left now and frankly it feels like the boat doesn't have a rudder any more let alone someone at the wheel.

quote:
the roadmap for version 4 has been posted many times
and where was it most recently ? I haven't seen anything recently and the posts in the last week on THIS thread have severely watered down any hope of getting a v.4 any time soon.

.Net 2.0 you say ? I thought I had it ingrained in my brain that Snitz would always be good, old Classic ASP.<
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  06:03:04  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
just because nothing has happened doesn't change the road map, the objectives for v4 are still the same, it just needs some rework to reduce it's load and overheads on the server, which requires time

quote:
.Net 2.0 you say ? I thought I had it ingrained in my brain that Snitz would always be good, old Classic ASP.
yes, that is the case, the .net will be seperate classic ASP version will still continue<
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Shaggy
Support Moderator

Ireland
6780 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  06:09:28  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by laser
So in 12 months we've basically gone nowhere.
Nowhere? We have a brand new Dev Team, v3.4.06 was relaeased a few weeks ago, v3.5 is on the way with many, many new features to deter spammers and scammers and there's a .NET version in the pipeline. Don't know what your idea of "going nowhere" consists of, but clearly it's entirely different to mine - just because v4 is still stalled doesn't mean things aren't happening or that Snitz is dead.

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laser
Advanced Member

Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  08:09:13  Show Profile
I'm sorry for sounding so negative. Of course I should just sit here and remember that in the future there are many new features to await, and they are eagerly anticipated.<
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader

Australia
2084 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  08:31:38  Show Profile
Well said HuwR and Shaggy. There has been a lot of things happening in the background.

A good product can take months to produce, but a fantastic product can take a lot longer. We are all working hard to get things working for the community, but if you want a product that has not only faults with it, but security bugs, then I am sure we can put you in touch with a good pruoduct.

With the recent changes to the team, there is a bit to get up to speed on and to make sure that it turns out to be a fantastic product (free at that) and all works to the best it possibly could.<

Cheers,

David Greening
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cladon
Junior Member

Belgium
110 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2006 :  08:57:20  Show Profile
quote:
There has been a lot of things happening in the background.


That is perfect but that is not the point at all. The only that not happens is that the community in not informed time by time.

When a woman is getting a baby the people always asking "Is everything going good."

We (the community) are doing the same but we may not ask it.<

Edited by - cladon on 10 October 2006 08:57:51
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