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EKinnamon
Starting Member

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 09 April 2005 :  16:47:46  Show Profile  Visit EKinnamon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Guy asked this..

<<We have Person 1, 2, 3 and 4
...and Forum A, B, C, D and E.

Person 1 will have access to A B C
Person 2 will have access to B C D
Person 3 will have access to A C D
Person 4 will have access to A B D
Finaly ALL shall have access to E

How do I set upp my groups? Any Idea!>>

Told this...

<<Just make all the forums allowed member list and then make a group for each forum (for the example you showed that would be the best solution). You will not need DENY on any of the groups.>>

But I can't find allow, I see reference to it here..

<<Is the forum set to Allowed Member List / Allowed Member List (Hidden). Then you set explicit allow permissions for the members who are allowed in. The usergroups mod does not handle users who are not signed up AFAIK, you would need to set the Auth Type for that forum.>>

My stie is http://www.kinnamon.net/Boards/default.asp and I want to do the same sort of logic that the guy above addessed.

Thanks in advance,
EKinnamon

EDIT:Sorry for the multiple post, i was getting an error and didn't think the post was hapening.-EK<

Edited by - EKinnamon on 09 April 2005 16:50:45

Jorrit787
Average Member

Netherlands
681 Posts

Posted - 09 April 2005 :  21:35:58  Show Profile  Visit Jorrit787's Homepage  Send Jorrit787 an AOL message  Send Jorrit787 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The UserGroups MOD comes with instructions on how to use it. They seemed very clear to me. You will have to create a group for each different kind of access you want - ABC, ABD etc.<

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EKinnamon
Starting Member

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 10 April 2005 :  01:45:27  Show Profile  Visit EKinnamon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I did read the directions, several times, reason I am asking them here.....

I do not see the Option for allow, what do I do to make it show up.

EK<
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Jorrit787
Average Member

Netherlands
681 Posts

Posted - 10 April 2005 :  02:06:11  Show Profile  Visit Jorrit787's Homepage  Send Jorrit787 an AOL message  Send Jorrit787 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Go to your UserGroups Manager, create a new group or edit an existing one, and you should be able to set the permission for each subforum. Choosing 'Do Not Set' is the same thing as allow.<

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EKinnamon
Starting Member

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 10 April 2005 :  02:49:18  Show Profile  Visit EKinnamon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jorrit787

Go to your UserGroups Manager, create a new group or edit an existing one, and you should be able to set the permission for each subforum. Choosing 'Do Not Set' is the same thing as allow.



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Originally posted by Reinsnitz

Set the forum to "Members Only (Hidden)".

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Doesn't it need to be Allowed Member List, you don't get the "Allow" option in the UserGroup permissions with Members Only.

If a user belonged to 2 UserGroups, lets say GroupA and GroupB, a forum is created with "Allowed Member List (hidden)" set, GroupA set to allow, GroupB set to deny. Should this member have access? They are a member of GroupA which is allowed yet also a member of GroupB which is denied?
I've tested this scenario and they are not allowed in, I would have thought they would?

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Nikkol
Forum Moderator



USA
6901 Posts
Posted - 14 November 2003 : 07:04:50
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I coded it so that Deny overrides any other permission.

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So if "Do not set" is allow, read is read, and Deny is total Deny, how do you set permissions? Deny is later said to be used only in a Ban type of situtation. I.E. base is no one has rights, then you can give 'allow', or read, and not suppose to use Deny...

http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=48967

not that I haven't read this for several hours ... after reading the install notes...

<Nikkol,

I'm not getting an option for Allow for the premium usergroup (or the default one either) -- only Do Not Set, Read-Only, and Deny...

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DavidRhodes
Senior Member



United Kingdom
1220 Posts
Posted - 22 November 2003 : 17:50:39
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richfed,
Yeah you're right, forgot to mention that, there is a stray code box in the read me file

Kent,
You need to set the forum to Allowed Member List to use the UserGroups as they are intended.>

Now, how do I get the option to "Allowed Member List' becase I don't see it.

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Jorrit787
Average Member

Netherlands
681 Posts

Posted - 10 April 2005 :  22:29:32  Show Profile  Visit Jorrit787's Homepage  Send Jorrit787 an AOL message  Send Jorrit787 a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EKinnamon

Now, how do I get the option to "Allowed Member List' becase I don't see it.
You need to set the subforum's Auth Type to 'Allowed Member List'. Edit the subforum's properties by clicking on the pencil icon in the right hand column on the default page.<

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EKinnamon
Starting Member

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 11 April 2005 :  00:24:07  Show Profile  Visit EKinnamon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't get that option, i put up print screen to the 2 places that I have 'pencils' and the pages they lead too, of all the drop down boxes that follow none have that option, maybe I am in the wrong spot, but I think i have looked all over...

http://www.kinnamon.net/files/pic.jpg
http://www.kinnamon.net/files/pic1.jpg
http://www.kinnamon.net/files/pic2.jpg

Of the drop down boxes listed in the SS above, none have the option you refer too. I have the lates Snitz program ( [Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05] ) and the lates DL of the UserGroup MOD.

EK
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Edited by - EKinnamon on 11 April 2005 00:28:42
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Machina
New Member

Switzerland
74 Posts

Posted - 11 April 2005 :  04:47:41  Show Profile  Visit Machina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Everything is here http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=45449 AND here http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=48967<

Machina
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Snitz based site:
http://www.itu.int/YLinICTs
MODS Used : TMPJ's Header Cell Image, Site Integration, Front Page News, News Events Calendar, Nikkol's Usergroups, Simple Slash, Avatar, File Sharing, Links
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EKinnamon
Starting Member

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 11 April 2005 :  11:10:53  Show Profile  Visit EKinnamon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Machina

Everything is here http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=45449 AND here http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=48967



I've read though both of those post already, and even the cut-n-paste I have are from those post...

Before posting the question I went and read those, after not finding my asnwer, or finding the solution but the solution did not show up like illistrated in the SS above, did I decide to ask and start a new thread.

EK<

Edited by - EKinnamon on 11 April 2005 11:13:29
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EKinnamon
Starting Member

USA
7 Posts

Posted - 11 April 2005 :  15:50:59  Show Profile  Visit EKinnamon's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If somebody haas a SS of where this 'Allowed Member List' option could you please post a pic becasue at this point I am stuck.

Thanks,
EK<
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Machina
New Member

Switzerland
74 Posts

Posted - 18 April 2005 :  11:22:48  Show Profile  Visit Machina's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EKinnamon

If somebody haas a SS of where this 'Allowed Member List' option could you please post a pic becasue at this point I am stuck.

Thanks,
EK


Did you switch on the Private Forums in Admin Section/Feature Configuration?<

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http://www.jaboulay.fr
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Snitz based site:
http://www.itu.int/YLinICTs
MODS Used : TMPJ's Header Cell Image, Site Integration, Front Page News, News Events Calendar, Nikkol's Usergroups, Simple Slash, Avatar, File Sharing, Links
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Seleck
Starting Member

Germany
14 Posts

Posted - 17 May 2005 :  06:06:35  Show Profile  Visit Seleck's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thank you for this nice Mod Nikkol. Specialy Checklist and readme.html was a great help.

I have two question here:

I have a Modified Forum with few other mod. Every thing as listed and showed in readme and checklist was same except of Forum.asp.
At line 168 there is suggested to paste this code:
quote:
'####### Begin UserGroup MOD #######
if strPrivateForums <> "1" and (Request.Form("Method_Type") <> "login") and (Request.Form("Method_Type") <> "logout") and ForumChkSkipAllowed = 0 then
result = ChkForumAccess(Forum_ID, MemberID, true)
end if
'####### End UserGroup MOD #######


But it also says, that surrounding code looks like:

quote:
if strPrivateForums = "1" and (Request.Form("Method_Type") <> "login") and (Request.Form("Method_Type") <> "logout") and ForumChkSkipAllowed = 0 then
result = ChkForumAccess(Forum_ID, MemberID, true)
end if

'####### Begin UserGroup MOD #######
if strPrivateForums <> "1" and (Request.Form("Method_Type") <> "login") and (Request.Form("Method_Type") <> "logout") and ForumChkSkipAllowed = 0 then
result = ChkForumAccess(Forum_ID, MemberID, true)
end if
'####### End UserGroup MOD #######

if strModeration = "1" and AdminAllowed = 1 then
strUGView = Application(strCookieURL & "STRUGVIEW")
strUGMemView = Application(strCookieURL & "STRUGMEMVIEW")
strUGModForums = Application(strCookieURL & "STRUGMODFORUMS")
'####### End UserGroup MOD #######

if strSecureAdmin = "0" then
Session(strCookieURL & "Approval") = "15916941253"
end if


Now when i change the code according to as shown in *sourrounded-code Version*, no body can see any forum when you click any topic. It shows an emtpy page. But when i take follwing lines: It work fine.
quote:
if strModeration = "1" and AdminAllowed = 1 then
strUGView = Application(strCookieURL & "STRUGVIEW")
strUGMemView = Application(strCookieURL & "STRUGMEMVIEW")
strUGModForums = Application(strCookieURL & "STRUGMODFORUMS")
'####### End UserGroup MOD #######


what i am doing wrong ?

My 2nd question is:

We have about 1250 users in our Intranet-Forum, i created a group (Co-Admin) containing 10 members.

Now i want that only these 10 members of this Co-Admin group are allowed to acces a Forum-A rest of users shouldn't have access nor they see the Forum-A.

It works great when i am setting few users of deny to access Forum-A. They can't access nor see the forum. But how can i do it in other way that 1240 members can't access the Forum-A but only members of group Co-Admin.

I tried to put all members in a default-group with *Auto-join for new members on registration*, but there i got another problem: I was able to put half of these 1250 members into this default-group. rest still remains as forum-members. The idea was that this way i can set for all members of default-group to acces all forums except of Forum-A. But due to reason that i am not able to put all members in the default-group,its not working.

What i am doing wrong here.

It will be great if someone can help me out here.
The forum is running under
- Version - 3.4.03 with NT-Authentification
- Window2003 server with MS-SQL2000

Thanks already for any help.
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SEL
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Edited by - Seleck on 17 May 2005 06:08:02
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rrold1
Starting Member

10 Posts

Posted - 27 August 2005 :  17:06:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been playing with the usergroups mod and I just don't seem to get it no matter how many times I read the instructions and prior posts. I am using an access database. Without the mod, you have to set access to each forum for each member individually. I hoped to be able to just add a user to a group list to differentiate them from the general public and allow access to hidden forums.

It seems no matter how I set the "group" permissions, I can't seem to get the proper result. Here is what I want to do:

I have 2 categories with 3 forums each.
I want the general public to be able to view all forums and posts in the first category but not be able to post without joining.
In the second category, I want only "special" members to be able to see the forums and post with the exception of one "locked" forum that instructs on how to gain access to the forums for the "special" members.

I guess that I don't understand what has to be set in the regular forum properties vs the group properties.

I have spent hours on this so I hope someone has the patience to help me see the light here.

Thanks all,

RR<
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