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hellind
Junior Member

Singapore
123 Posts

Posted - 25 February 2005 :  01:07:00  Show Profile
Have anyone else noticed this?

I have floodcontrol activated. When a user type a lot for the 2nd post within the floodcontrol time, it doesn't post, as expected. Okay.

But when the user goes back to wait out the time, in FireFox, all he had typed is lost. It can be real annoying to them.

This doesnt' happen in I.E.

Is there a clever workaround? Firefox is gaining ground and we need to cater to them.

HuwR
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United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 25 February 2005 :  05:21:56  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Is there a clever workaround? Firefox is gaining ground and we need to cater to them.


Yes, use IE
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Shaggy
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Ireland
6780 Posts

Posted - 25 February 2005 :  05:24:25  Show Profile
Use Firefox as my main browser and it never happens to me (well, excpet on this site, for some reason) - in fact, I've found it to be much better than IE for remembering form entries and selections when clicking back & forth through pages.


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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 February 2005 :  07:09:20  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
I would hazard a guess that it is a setting in firefox then
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Shaggy
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Ireland
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Posted - 25 February 2005 :  07:48:03  Show Profile
Must be, or maybe some extension I've got installed. Strange that it's only here it clears everything although I learned my lesson long ago to hit Ctrl+C before posting, just in case, so it ain't a problem


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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 25 February 2005 :  12:04:25  Show Profile
Happens to me too. Sometimes in IE also. Was thinking of a mod that saves the message to a field in the MEMBERS table in the database, when they submit. And the go back button will take them back to thier full message.

Just an idea though. Maybe someone can work with it. Shouldn't be too hard.

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Shaggy
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Ireland
6780 Posts

Posted - 25 February 2005 :  12:37:05  Show Profile
But if the page is being read from cache then it wouldn't be going back to the server to be able to retrieve the value of that field.


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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 25 February 2005 :  13:08:52  Show Profile
No Shaggy, you wouldn't use the browser history to go back. Just reload the post.asp page with the data that was just submitted.

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hellind
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Singapore
123 Posts

Posted - 26 February 2005 :  05:55:31  Show Profile
Okay, so it is not just a few people's problem, nice to hear.

I have duplicated this problem here and it does happen, so it not only my forum problem.

Most of my visitors reports it occuring in Firefox.

and HUWR, with Firefox getting close to 8%, and we webmasters doesnt dictate what our visitors have to use, I think a solution would be welcomed, other than shaggy's Ctrl-C solution. :)

Posters are finicky.

I am not a guru, but have been reading for some solutions on newsgroups, how about using JS to write the thing into a cookie? What you guys would say is the best effective simple solution? Just sketchy idea will help.
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 February 2005 :  10:08:52  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
The best solution would be to check if a timeout is enabled so the user can't get to post.asp, browsers are stateless entities and because asp is dynamic they are behaving exactly as they should do, using a cookie would be very bad, and for a lot of cases would not work because the posts would be too long, and strictly speaking that is not the correct use of a cookie.
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Shaggy
Support Moderator

Ireland
6780 Posts

Posted - 28 February 2005 :  06:55:54  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Davio
No Shaggy, you wouldn't use the browser history to go back. Just reload the post.asp page with the data that was just submitted.

Ah, OK, I get you know, sounds similar to what I was going to implement on Woo.ie before I got waylaid by a few other things. I've already done it for the registration process so that when an error is encountered with a member's detilas it writes the form below the error message with the member's details intact. No need for any database work, though, just use request.form

Have made a start with doing something similar with post_info.asp but, as I said I got distracted before I could finish it.

I'm with Huw on this, though, this is a browser problem and I don't think the Dev Team should be worrying about it too much at the expense of other matters which need to be worke on at the moment.

quote:
Originally posted by HuwR
The best solution would be to check if a timeout is enabled so the user can't get to post.asp
By the way, I polled a couple of people on this a while back and the consensus seemed to be that that was a bad idea as the majority of the time, it's going to take you longer than the time set for the flood control to hit post_info.asp for a second time and doing this would prevent people from even starting their next post until flood control had expired which woould hurt the ease with which people can breeze through the forums. Maybe a line above the form when they load post.asp if they've made a post in the last x seconds to let them know we have flood control enabled, etc. might be a better solution?


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Edited by - Shaggy on 28 February 2005 07:01:16
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s80ts0465
Junior Member

Italy
290 Posts

Posted - 08 April 2005 :  14:46:10  Show Profile  Send s80ts0465 an ICQ Message
anybody have find the solution ???
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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 08 April 2005 :  15:27:22  Show Profile
But hold up, how much information can 1 person post within a 60 second time slot? Must be a speed demon.

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hellind
Junior Member

Singapore
123 Posts

Posted - 08 April 2005 :  23:43:48  Show Profile
Some have 60sec, others have 90sec floodcontrol enabled.

I agree with Shaggy that disabling the post-button is a bad idea.

The ideal way would be either

1) display a "Continue" button at post_info.asp. Visitors will wait out the timeout and then hit the continue button to resubmit.



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s80ts0465
Junior Member

Italy
290 Posts

Posted - 09 April 2005 :  09:35:08  Show Profile  Send s80ts0465 an ICQ Message
I've a similar problem that is present only with Firefox (with IE works fine). I don't have the floodcontrol activated.
The problem i'd like to solve is similar beacause i don't want to loose the text in the message (i still haven't submitted "Post New Reply or Post New topic) when after i click the goback(-1) botton for mistake.

Using IE the problem isn't noticable (after a goback a goforward the text message is still there), but with FireFox it is.

was i understandable???


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