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Mindcontrol
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 Posted - 21 December 2003 : 14:11:35
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As you wish I shall stick to exactly what he posted and no more.
First of all I would like to point out that we saw the same kind of soldier in Viet Nam. When you back them it is saying that you agree with the war and whatever Bush says. If you don't agree with that just try and speak out againest the war. The republicans will pounce on you for not being patriotic. This has nothing to do with world peace.
It's just a republican ploy to get the people of America to back the war. This was there thinking, how to get America to back a war that nobody wants. They first did the WMD thing and then the cute little solgan, back the soldiers.
You will see what I am saying is true when bush gets defeated.
If you really want to back the soldiers get them out now before anymore of them are killed. I real war might be on the horizon.< |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 December 2003 : 14:49:47
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Did I not make it clear enough Mindcontrol, or would you like me to spell it out again ?
WE WILL NOT STAND FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT BUSH IN THIS THREAD.
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Mindcontrol
New Member
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Posted - 21 December 2003 : 14:52:19
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| OK but it is hard to talk about the troops and not mention that guys name.< |
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Dynamix
Junior Member
Germany
205 Posts |
Posted - 21 December 2003 : 17:08:33
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Originally posted by HuwR
WE WILL NOT STAND FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT BUSH IN THIS THREAD.
Thatīs a typically way how amercan and english people are thinking and acting!
And thatīs the reason why the america and even england are standing close to the edge in the world!< |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 December 2003 : 22:45:41
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Originally posted by Dynamix
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Originally posted by HuwR
WE WILL NOT STAND FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT BUSH IN THIS THREAD.
Thatīs a typically way how amercan and english people are thinking and acting!
And thatīs the reason why the america and even england are standing close to the edge in the world!
And yours is the typical attitude I would expect from a german!
If you don't like it then go somewhere else.< |
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Dynamix
Junior Member
Germany
205 Posts |
Posted - 25 December 2003 : 14:46:42
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And this is the reason why the british people live on an island and do not really belong to the other part of Europe!
Why donīt you leave?< |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 25 December 2003 : 16:58:21
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Originally posted by Dynamix
Why donīt you leave?
Do we really have to answer that, or are you not aware of the obvious? Besides Huw being one of the main administrators, developers and hosting the site on his server, I think it would be better suggested for you to leave.
By the way Merry Christmas!< |
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader
Australia
2084 Posts |
Posted - 26 December 2003 : 18:54:39
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Mark,
Thanks for pointig that out.. I thought that is was the Spainish flag, and now I have had a proper look, I can see it is the Iraq flag.quote:
Originally posted by MarkJH
David, I think that third flag in the logo is not that of Spain, it is of Iraq.
Sorry to the Iraqi's and the Spanish if I offened you. I still say we all fight for true freedom for all, no matter who they are, and if it means placing some flags on a web site to help, then I say go for it.
It was still the US, UK, Spain & Australia that started the push for true freedom and now all others want to get involved and this has to be a good thing, as it has brought the rest of the world closer...< |
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Lacey
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 30 December 2003 : 11:55:46
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I may not believe in war as it takes innocent lives. But I do believe that war sometimes has to be fought in order for others to be free. We sometimes forget how fortunate some of us are in freedom of speech and act and thought.
I feel that our soldiers are brave to fight for what some of them do not believe in as well... BUT they do believe in keeping the free free and in trying to get others to be free too. And if fighting in a foreign land and if lives need to be laid down for it, then so be it.. that's the given as an American.
Sure there are only those 4 flags on the site, but realize that it was stated the reason WHY there were only those 4 original flags.
If you are from a country not depicted by these flags, nothing is stopping you from displaying YOUR flag on YOUR site. In fact, maybe someone ingenious enough can create a flag that depicts ALL nations! Is that a do-able? A flag that covers the world..
What is on a site is the decision of the owner. I don't believe that by placing only these 4 flags is a dis-respect for those not displayed. "Reinsnitz" explained his reasons and we should all respect his reasons, even if you disagree. GIve respect and you get respect in return.
I was happy to see the flags.. Support is support, however you do it!
As for bashing leaders and presidents, why? It's best to not talk negative or contradictory of someone or something unless you can relate a legitimate solution. Negative feedback can be positive as long as the solution is also given and is noteworthy. And by saying something like, "He should do this or do that" doesn't cut it as there is usually no substance in that statement. My mom always said, "If you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all!"
I'm proud to be an American and I'm proud of our soldiers that protect us. I'm also proud of soldiers from other lands who are also doing their duty in keeping the bad in check. By working together, this world WILL become peaceful.
Let the fighting stay in the battlefield, and let peace remain on these boards!
Well.. that's my opinion.. you are welcomed to agree, disagree, or take no stand with me. That's OK.
Oh.. BTW.. Happy New Year to all!!!
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 30 December 2003 : 14:03:14
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| Let's make sure we forget about things like the current support being given to one of America's worst enemies, Iran. Nobody ever seems to want to remember that we can be humanitarians and have the ability to put politics aside.< |
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hsng
New Member
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Posted - 30 December 2003 : 18:39:05
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"I feel that our soldiers are brave to fight for what some of them do not believe in as well... BUT they do believe in keeping the free free and in trying to get others to be free too. And if fighting in a foreign land and if lives need to be laid down for it, then so be it.. that's the given as an American."
You don't know that they are forced to do this? They don't want to serve there and when asked they tell you they would never go back. They would fight and die for there country but they don't want to die for Iraq's.
It's easy for a president to sit back and send troops when he, or any of his family, doesn't have to go. since you are not privvy to a presidents motives, I have removed your last comment. If you are not going to pay any attention to the admins and moderators, then please refrain from posting.
HuwR
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cripto9t
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 31 December 2003 : 08:27:34
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Originally posted by hsng
You don't know that they are forced to do this? They don't want to serve there and when asked they tell you they would never go back. They would fight and die for there country but they don't want to die for Iraq's
Huh? Are you just making this up or are you still getting your info from the former Iraqi Information Minister?
The U.S. armed forces are all volunteer.
Where you from hsng?< |
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Lacey
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 31 December 2003 : 12:37:54
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All our service men and women are volunteers! And when they volunteer, they know that it is possible they will see war.. that they will be on the battlefield.. that they could possibly be in the front lines. And sure they wouldn't want to go back, noone would after seeing what I'm sure most have seen and heard and felt. But that's part of being in the service and that's what makes our service men and women proud to do their jobs.
Going off to war is not new for our current president, it's been going on forever and a day! (or almost). People volunteer to defend our nation and other nations as well.
Not everyone can believe or agree with what another's leader states or does, but that's the good thing about this world. Everyone is different, giving us the ability to write new history books for our future children and leaders of this world.
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hsng
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Posted - 31 December 2003 : 14:05:35
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| So your saying it is a good thing the world had Hitler [he was certainly different]. They are volunteers to fight for their country not someone else's.< |
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cripto9t
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 31 December 2003 : 17:26:21
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Originally posted by hsng
So your saying it is a good thing the world had Hitler [he was certainly different].
Why do you ask if someone is saying something they obviously didn't say? That's the reason this post is so long now, people like you accusing others of saying things that were never said or even implied.
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Originally posted by hsng
They are volunteers to fight for their country not someone else's.
Wrong again. They are fighting for thier countries, not someone elses'.
The soldiers in Iraq and Afganistan, went in to fight against the leadership of those countries for the allies. To get rid of thugs and sworn enimies that somehow got in control and attacked us every chance they got. They are not fighting for Iraq or Afganistan. Just like they did not fight for Germany or Japan in WW2.
ps. I was one of these volunteers you seem to know so much about. In my opinion, you need to do some research on free nations and why they are free. Iraq and Afganistans' armies would probably still be standing proud if they had something to fight for.
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