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MikeB.Lynn
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Posted - 13 April 2009 :  03:57:14  Show Profile
First I'm not sure where this should have been posted. If it didn't belong here sorry in advance.

This is just a quick question regarding IP Gate. As I understand it you can enter a specific IP or IP Range. Also you can enter a member name. When that member logs or ip range in (or tries to)a cookie is placed on their machine.
Here is the question- Lets say memberX gets banned. So they try to log in and IP gate does it's thing. All of a sudden members A, B, C login and they get an auto detect inserted ban.
does this tell me they are on the same machine?
One step further if MemberX was just banned by the username only will IP Gate throw out it's cookie to anyone who happens to catch the last IP of memberX in a pool???
Mike

gpctexas
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Posted - 13 April 2009 :  04:53:48  Show Profile  Visit gpctexas's Homepage
if autoban is on, it will throw the cookie out and do its thing when it is detected by anyone.
You can enable/disable this by editing inc_ipgate.asp and locating
useautoban = 1 'set to 0 if you do not want to autoban ipaddress based on current bans


When you ban by ip or ip range, if anyone matches the ip or range you put in, they will be caught in that ban. You can enter that members name into ipgate and choose expire ban and they should be able to login, just wont be able to browse while not logged in.

When you ban by username, only that username or that cookie will be sought after. If autoban in enabled the cookie is detected and any additional usernames or ip addresses will be banned.

ipgate 2.4.4 RC3
http://www.gpctexas.net/ipgate_v244.zip

Edited by - gpctexas on 13 April 2009 04:54:12
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MikeB.Lynn
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Posted - 13 April 2009 :  05:05:11  Show Profile
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When you ban by username, only that username or that cookie will be sought after. If autoban in enabled the cookie is detected and any additional usernames or ip addresses will be banned.

OK this is where I need clarification.
the cookie is detected on memberX's machine. Now comes along memberY and autoban detects that cookie, so it autobans memberY and notes memberY's IP.
now comes along a total stranger (Member Z) they happen to have an IP from a pool used by MemberY. do they get banned also or is this telling me that these three people are the same or on the same machine
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gpctexas
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Posted - 13 April 2009 :  05:17:01  Show Profile  Visit gpctexas's Homepage
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the cookie is detected on memberX's machine. Now comes along memberY and autoban detects that cookie

This would only happen if using same pc. Detecting the cookie in this instance bans the next user. (This could be same user)

quote:
now comes along a total stranger (Member Z) they happen to have an IP from a pool used by MemberY.

They get banned for matching the ip, also places cookie if enabled
(This may or may not be same user)

ipgate 2.4.4 RC3
http://www.gpctexas.net/ipgate_v244.zip

Edited by - gpctexas on 13 April 2009 05:24:59
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MikeB.Lynn
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Posted - 13 April 2009 :  05:56:23  Show Profile
SO what your telling me (please bear with me I am kind of stupid) is that if I ban memberX by username only and MemberY uses the same computer it detects that cookie and adds the autoban.
Does ipgate note the IP address (even though it wasn't used in the initial ban)of either X or Y then start tagging every person from that pool on it's own?
I want to try and keep autoban but not if it's going to make it's own detections.

I really appreciate your help
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gpctexas
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Posted - 13 April 2009 :  07:54:08  Show Profile  Visit gpctexas's Homepage
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if I ban memberX by username only and MemberY uses the same computer it detects that cookie and adds the autoban.

Correct

quote:
Does ipgate note the IP address (even though it wasn't used in the initial ban)of either X or Y then start tagging every person from that pool on it's own?

Making note of the ip address or username is the forum admins duty. That is why there is a comments field when you setup bans. There are side affects using each method and it is up to you to decide what you want to use.
IPgate does add the ip and username and into the table for autobans. Chances are if a user is really giving your forums grief, the ip address is them for that day at least.

ipgate 2.4.4 RC3
http://www.gpctexas.net/ipgate_v244.zip
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MikeB.Lynn
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Posted - 13 April 2009 :  09:12:58  Show Profile
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IPgate does add the ip and username and into the table for autobans

RATS.
I have to turn autoban off then and issue a expire cookie.
because a certain member comes in on a pool from AOL I purposely stayed away from the IP. I had a feeling they had a second membership and both accounts got caught by IP Gate. The second one got hit with the autoban. Unfortunately so did 10 other innocents who just happen to come in after the autoban was inserted on the original users secondary membership from the same AOL pool..

What happens with autoban off? does just the targeted member get the ban cookie or is that cookie machine wise (if they have multiple accounts will it ban them all). Like in the case above I also want the ban to effect all accounts that person may have?
Is it possible (maybe in future updates) to get the auto ban inserted without flagging ip's. In other words insert the autoban but on the users computer and not re-issue itself on the IP.

Edited by - MikeB.Lynn on 13 April 2009 09:43:35
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