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dcohn
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Posted - 23 March 2009 :  17:15:06  Show Profile  Visit dcohn's Homepage
Is there anyway to prevent users from emailing other users.

We have a problem where several users broke off and started a new forum and they are now sitting on my forum waiting for new users and emailing them to go elsewhere.

I know this because I have a small mod that emails me a copy of every internal email so we can monitor any dangerous advice.

I cannot block them unless I just block everyone since I have so many no post count users I should clean out

Additionally I have the mod that prevents new users from sending email but I also want to prevent new users from receiving mail.

Thanks in advance.

Doug

PS I want to add that I bought Vbulletin and was going to upgrade no convert is the right word. After spending months until VB tech support corrected their snitz import utility I did not convert.

Snitz support is beyond excellent. Yes I would like tighter security on certain forum features. But overall the look and feel of Snitz is just fine. But the support is everything. Every issue I have ever had big or small was corrected at no fee. VB did not have this ability even when I offered to pay them to do some work.

THANK YOU SNITZ Rui has been my go to person but it is all of you.

Edited by - dcohn on 23 March 2009 17:16:23

ruirib
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Posted - 23 March 2009 :  17:40:47  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Doug,

Don't you have IPGate installed? You could use it to block access to the email page...


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HuwR
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Posted - 23 March 2009 :  17:51:14  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
I know this because I have a small mod that emails me a copy of every internal email so we can monitor any dangerous advice.

When your members signed up did you inform them that you did this? If you didn't your probably ought to stop right now as your are in breach of a whole load of privacy laws not to mention the human rights act.
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dcohn
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Posted - 23 March 2009 :  18:15:13  Show Profile  Visit dcohn's Homepage
Yes we did actually

We are helping people treat a very specific cat illness and the email interaction is to prevent people from getting dangerous advice.

The site was started by a Vet and no fees or ads were evey used
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dcohn
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Posted - 23 March 2009 :  18:21:17  Show Profile  Visit dcohn's Homepage
I think I do have IP gate yes

I want to block new users from receiving

How will that help

Additionally what would I edit to add a note to the actual email form to remind them that it is NOT private since once may not be enough. We have been pretty clear about the purpose of the forum and have no reason to hide anything as the goal is only to help people learn the protocol because it works. But anyone that does not agree has every right to leave.

IE we have saved thousands of cats already. Our issues are crazy women that want to have power over people that are desperate for help. So instead of the users just posting and getting help these controlling types try to get people to feel like they NEED much more hand holding then they really do.

Nonetheless these are not my policies anyway as I do this for the vet that helped me save 5 of my own cats.


Thanks

Edited by - dcohn on 23 March 2009 18:24:13
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dcohn
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Posted - 23 March 2009 :  18:23:18  Show Profile  Visit dcohn's Homepage
NO IPGATE was never installed

ONly Gatekeeper Anti SPAM
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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 23 March 2009 :  18:34:24  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
I thought you wanted to stop the members doing the emailing to do it. IPgate could be used for that.

There is a field in the members table (M_RECEIVE_EMAIL) that records whether a user wants to receive email or not. You could set it to 0, during the registration process, so that new members don't receive emails.



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dcohn
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Posted - 23 March 2009 :  18:42:54  Show Profile  Visit dcohn's Homepage
Huwr

I only refer to email sent from within the forum. I don't see how this affects the Human Rights Act as I always believed that was to stop discrimination.

I would be interested in seeing a law that prevents a forum operator from monitoring content that is sent through that site. I would hate to think that any laws have been broken and want to be sure.

We are only viewing the content not modifying it and have made it public knowledge as well. I would still like to know what you are basing that comment on just to cover their butts.

This is a US based site as well. Laws are different here it seems. They could say they were looking out for terrorists as most things are covered under that one statement when it comes to any rights these days. At least that is what it seems like <G>...
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dcohn
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Posted - 23 March 2009 :  23:38:26  Show Profile  Visit dcohn's Homepage
quote:

I thought you wanted to stop the members doing the emailing to do it. IPgate could be used for that.


While that will work it may also prevent the good emails to go through from people helping each other which is the majority.

What they want is for new members to not get email until they are settled and understand the protocol. Then once they have the basic concepts down they could be on their own. Basically the same policy that prevents them from sending emails until they have XX posts would work perfectly. I already have that mod that you created I think that stops new members from sending mail for anti spam reasons.

That was the reason for viewing the emails as well. To catch the people that were coming from other forums just to grab new users and redirect them elsewhere.
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 March 2009 :  07:21:58  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
since you informed them you are monitoring these emails it is not really an issue, but had you not informed them you would be breaking the law even in the US you have laws which prevent ordinary people from infringing on other peoples rights, privacy being one of them.

and email is different from a forum because forum posts are public, emails are not.
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MikeB.Lynn
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Posted - 24 March 2009 :  10:16:11  Show Profile
There is a way to disable fourm wide member to member email is this what your looking for??
If so just replace your pop_mail.asp with this (Remember to always backup your original file FIRST):


<%
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<!--#INCLUDE FILE="config.asp" -->
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="inc_sha256.asp" -->
<!--#INCLUDE FILE="inc_header_short.asp" -->
<!--#INCLUDE file="inc_func_member.asp" -->
<%
if Request.QueryString("ID") <> "" and IsNumeric(Request.QueryString("ID")) = True then
intMemberID = cLng(Request.QueryString("ID"))
else
intMemberID = 0
end if

'## Forum_SQL
strSql = "SELECT M.M_RECEIVE_EMAIL, M.M_EMAIL, M.M_NAME FROM " & strMemberTablePrefix & "MEMBERS M"
strSql = strSql & " WHERE M.MEMBER_ID = " & intMemberID

set rs = my_Conn.Execute (strSql)

Response.Write " <p><font face=""" & strDefaultFontFace & """ size=""" & strHeaderFontSize & """>For your protection and privacy.<br> E-Mail Messages have been disabled by the Moderator. <br> Use Private Messages instead.</font></p>" & vbNewLine



set rs = nothing
WriteFooterShort
Response.End
%>


Just change the red part to anything you want it to say.
When a member clicks the mail icon they get greeted with that message in the pop-up window instead of the email form
OR you can set the default for "allow forum members to send you email" to NO.
open your inc_profile.asp and look for this:


<select name=""ReceiveEMail"">" & vbNewLine & _

Change the lines below it to look like this

" <option value=""1"">Yes</option>" & vbNewLine & _
" <option value=""0"" selected>No</option>" & vbNewLine & _

This will set the default from YES to NO for new registers

Edited by - MikeB.Lynn on 24 March 2009 10:52:08
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