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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2008 :  16:47:23  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage
I'm in the process of migrating my db from Access to SQL2000.
I have run setup, and all the DBS files I could find in my archives, but several DBS files were no longer there. I know, it's a bit daft not to store them, but when I was installing those mods in the beginning of my Snitz adventure at the end of 2002 I didn't realise how important those files where...

Is there a simple tutorial/checklist I can use, which enables me to reverse engineer the DBS files based on what I see in my current Access db?<

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Edited by - MarcelG on 22 December 2008 14:51:01

Etymon
Advanced Member

United States
2385 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2008 :  17:10:29  Show Profile  Visit Etymon's Homepage
Marcel, are you able to list the MODs you have? Maybe folks in the community have the dbs_ files you need. <
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2008 :  11:18:55  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage
Indeed! That's a good idea.
They're almost all listed here ; http://oxle.com/topic/903.html
Some additional modifications are made by myself which also include DB updates (the Members feeds, the sidebar, the sidebar userpreferences, ....)
For those I will simply have to make the DBS changes myself....



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Edited by - MarcelG on 20 December 2008 11:20:09
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Etymon
Advanced Member

United States
2385 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2008 :  12:43:58  Show Profile  Visit Etymon's Homepage
E-mail sent ...

? = no
i = yes

? * Alternative paging by sr_erick
? * File Attachments/Uploads
? * Header redesign
? * Limit Quick Paging by OneWayMule
? * Modified Forum Code (Quote etc)
? * Sidebarmod
? * Site Statistics
? * Sponsoring Members Mod
? * The [You] feature (Yes, especially for you!)

i * Active Users
i * Additional Forum Code (Iframe etc)
i * AntiSpam Registration
i * Avatar uploads
i * Avatars pfiew...
i * Basic Statistics
i * CTRL-B/CTRL-U/CTRL-I in post.asp for Bold, Underline and Italic
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i * Sticky Topic Mod Didn't know that that was incorporated in the default Snitz!<
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2008 :  13:19:38  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage
Thanks Jeff!!<

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Shaggy
Support Moderator

Ireland
6780 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  04:58:53  Show Profile
No DB changes needed for the [you] mod, just a couple of lines to add to inc_func_common.asp - Linkage.

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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  07:24:10  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage
I managed to find all DBS files that I need, and created them for the mods I made myself.

I'm currently experimenting with the migration, but I don't think I'll succeed....
- I've got a SQL 2000 database at Kiwihosting, and it allows me to connect using a DSN, or via MS SQL Server Studio Express
- SQL Studio Express does not have a 'import' option....
- I don't have access to the filesystem of the SQL server...
- I'm currently using MS Access 2007, to move the data from the local Access 2000 file to the SQL database, over a DSN.

I expect a miserable failure, but we'll see how it goes.<

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Etymon
Advanced Member

United States
2385 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  08:00:37  Show Profile  Visit Etymon's Homepage
Look into using Linked Servers in the help section of MS SQL Server Studio Express.<
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  08:32:46  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
if your db is SQL 2000, download the trial of SQL2000 and then use the fullblown SQL2000 EM as it will allow you to import/export data between your old and new databases

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=D20BA6E1-F44C-4781-A6BB-F60E02DC1335&displaylang=en<
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  09:04:38  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage
I've just installed the SQL 2000 Enterprise Manager, and yay!!! I've got the Import button! <

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Etymon
Advanced Member

United States
2385 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  09:17:43  Show Profile  Visit Etymon's Homepage
I'm downloading SQL 2000 Enterprise Manager ... is it ok to install it on the same computer where MS SQL Server 2005 Studio Express is installed?<
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  10:37:27  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage
Well, it sure seems to be the case ; I've got both running on the same Vista box.

I'm running into some issues btw ; the FORUM_MODS table isn't copied over correctly....
quote:
Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80040e14'

The text, ntext, and image data types cannot be compared or sorted, except when using IS NULL or LIKE operator.

/upload_avatar_engine.asp, line 112
mmm..

-edit - found it, turns out I had FORUM_MODS.M_NAME set to TEXT instead of nvarchar...
Fixed. <

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Edited by - MarcelG on 22 December 2008 10:44:03
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  12:11:06  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Etymon

I'm downloading SQL 2000 Enterprise Manager ... is it ok to install it on the same computer where MS SQL Server 2005 Studio Express is installed?


yep should be fine, I have them both running. just remember 200 EM will NOT connect to a 2005 database <
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  14:50:03  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage
Okay, it is getting a bit offtopic so I am going to rename this topic to make it ontopic... )
But, anyhow ; I think I have done a succesful (test)migration from MS Access to SQL 2000, but I'm not entirely sure.
I followed the steps in Carlos Miranda Levys topic as much as I could, including all the DBS files I could find.
I was unable to use Windows Authentication, as I am on shared hosting without support for windows accounts but that didn't seem to be a problem at all....
I completed the import, ran setup (it asked me to upgrade the database, so I did), I updated the forum counts, and it all looked ok.

I've tested all the mods I've installed, I've tested registration, topic deletion, reply deletion, splitting topics, archiving a forum, IP-gating, etc, and I encountered only 2 database-structure related errors (one missing column in the avatar table, one incorrect column-type (see above).
Additionally I had to remove one MS Access random row-workaround (and replaced it by ORDER BY NEWID() as that was what the workaround was for)

Is there a simple checklist I could follow now to make sure everything is ok ? I don't want to run into problems later on...especially seeing this remark in Carlos Miranda Levys post:
quote:
One thing to worry here is that in both of the migrations listed above, the forum appeared to work fine, although I had not followed proper procedure. [...]If it would not have been thanks to the warnings and advice of others like Rui, I would have carried on with my "successfully" migrated faulty forums.

Any help is welcome!<

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Edited by - MarcelG on 22 December 2008 14:58:34
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SiSL
Average Member

Turkey
671 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  17:48:10  Show Profile  Visit SiSL's Homepage
Why not SQL 2008?

2008 FT, ROW_ID, RANK, DENSE-RANK are perfect things :p

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My Mods
Select All Code | Fix a vulnerability for your private messages | Avatar Categories W/ Avatar Gallery Mod | Complaint Manager
Admin Level Revisited | Merge Forums | No More Nested Quotes Mod

Edited by - SiSL on 22 December 2008 17:52:23
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AnonJr
Moderator

United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 22 December 2008 :  18:47:08  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Except its been noted that there are some problems with the Full Text search in 2008 - http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2008/11/sql-2008-full-text-search-problems/<
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