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JJenson
Advanced Member

USA
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Posted - 15 April 2008 :  02:57:16  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
I am trying to get my page rank up on the site I just started. I am wondering if anyone here has any tips on how to accomplish this?

Thanks
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 April 2008 :  03:08:53  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
about the only thing you can do to increase pagerank is to be linked to by a lot of other highly ranked sites, since that is what pagerank is, however SEO is not about PageRank. SEO is about optimising your pages so that they get found when searching, PageRank is just about Googles 'percieved importance' of your page which is different.
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JJenson
Advanced Member

USA
2121 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  10:16:13  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
So does anyone know of any good ways to get page rank up? I am trying to reseatch this and start to get my site's rank up.

Then I am also trying to work on SEO once the bots are on my site. Just looking for advice from those who have been doing this alot longer than me

Thanks
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 April 2008 :  10:39:49  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
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the only thing you can do to increase pagerank is to be linked to by a lot of other highly ranked sites
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bobby131313
Senior Member

USA
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Posted - 15 April 2008 :  11:07:54  Show Profile  Visit bobby131313's Homepage
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about the only thing you can do to increase pagerank is to be linked to by a lot of other highly ranked sites,


Well, there's actually more to it than that.

If your site is 100% dedicated to widgets and a PR6 site 100% dedicated to flisbins links to you, it won't help much, if at all. A PR2 site about widgets linking to you would be tremendously better.

Solid internal linking is huge. No page on your site should be more than 2 clicks from your homepage. If you use javascript menus, make sure you have a comparable menu in a <noscript> tag.

Page Titles are huge, they are the single most important meta tag. Make sure they are on target and the targeted words are in the first 55-60 characters.

Google sitemaps are a must. They make a big difference. But don't think because you use them you can slack on internal linking.

I'm sure I'll think of more...

Switch the order of your title tags
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20498 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  11:15:47  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
Page Titles have nothing whatsoever to do with PageRank and neither do sitemaps, PageRank is a pure calculation based on the importance/weight of external links to your site.

PageTitles,sitemaps and page content enhance your SEO not your pagerank.
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Shaggy
Support Moderator

Ireland
6780 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  11:28:03  Show Profile
PageRank explained here.

As for SEO (God, I hate that term!), if your website is structured, coded & written well, that's all there is to it - there's no great mystery behind it Just think of the bots as normal visitors using text-based browsers (i.e., no CSS, javascript, images, etc.).


Search is your friend
“I was having a mildly paranoid day, mostly due to the
fact that the mad priest lady from over the river had
taken to nailing weasels to my front door again.”

Edited by - Shaggy on 15 April 2008 11:29:10
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bobby131313
Senior Member

USA
1155 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  11:33:57  Show Profile  Visit bobby131313's Homepage
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Page Titles have nothing whatsoever to do with PageRank and neither do sitemaps, PageRank is a pure calculation based on the importance/weight of external links to your site.

PageTitles,sitemaps and page content enhance your SEO not your pagerank.


I fully understand that. I addressed the Pagerank issue, then moved on to SEO which he mentioned in a later post. Guess I should have been more clear.



Switch the order of your title tags
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20498 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  13:09:03  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by bobby131313

quote:
Page Titles have nothing whatsoever to do with PageRank and neither do sitemaps, PageRank is a pure calculation based on the importance/weight of external links to your site.

PageTitles,sitemaps and page content enhance your SEO not your pagerank.


I fully understand that. I addressed the Pagerank issue, then moved on to SEO which he mentioned in a later post. Guess I should have been more clear.



My appologies, I thought you were linking the two together.
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JJenson
Advanced Member

USA
2121 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  13:12:14  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
Thanks guys I guess I need to start looking into getting links from people who are dedicated to site and logo design as well as web apps being written. See if they will link into me.

As for the SEO side of it one question the page title I have it set up something like makeityourweb - portfolio. Should I take out the makeityourweb part of the title?

Thanks for the suggestions. I plan on becoming a expert at both of these someday But need to learn all there is to do with pagerank and SEO. I am sure there are tricks with each one.

Thanks again keep the suggestions coming.
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Shaggy
Support Moderator

Ireland
6780 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  13:27:37  Show Profile
Although with Google it's difficult to definitively prove these things, I've found that reversing the order of my page titles (changing "string1 > string2 > string3" to "string3 < string2 < string1") has produced a noted but not always major increase in position and traffic. However this presents something of a Catch-22 situation as, once the visitor has the page open in his browser, he expects to see the title read left to right, which also benefits the visitor by allowing them to see at a glance which websites he has open in each tab or window.


Search is your friend
“I was having a mildly paranoid day, mostly due to the
fact that the mad priest lady from over the river had
taken to nailing weasels to my front door again.”
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bobby131313
Senior Member

USA
1155 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  13:41:57  Show Profile  Visit bobby131313's Homepage
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Should I take out the makeityourweb part of the title?

I would do it just like Shaggy said, reverse it.

I did it with Snitz and it resulted in quite a difference in indexed topics. See my siggy.
quote:
My appologies,

No sweat, it did all run together and give the wrong impression.

Switch the order of your title tags

Edited by - bobby131313 on 15 April 2008 13:43:12
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JJenson
Advanced Member

USA
2121 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  14:13:15  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
Sweet thanks. I will have to get those switched today tomorrow.

Also anyone know a good way to check pageranks and also finding sites that would be willing to share a link if they are more like what you do.

Thanks
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20498 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  14:24:25  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php
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JJenson
Advanced Member

USA
2121 Posts

Posted - 15 April 2008 :  14:40:50  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
Thanks
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Shaggy
Support Moderator

Ireland
6780 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2008 :  04:32:57  Show Profile
"Build it and they will come"


Search is your friend
“I was having a mildly paranoid day, mostly due to the
fact that the mad priest lady from over the river had
taken to nailing weasels to my front door again.”
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