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Reinsnitz
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USA
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Posted - 19 March 2001 :  19:57:20  Show Profile  Visit Reinsnitz's Homepage  Send Reinsnitz an AOL message  Send Reinsnitz an ICQ Message  Send Reinsnitz a Yahoo! Message
lavinp: I got an email from someone complaining that "Zimbabwe (Rhodesia)" (in the country list - Snitz forum) is causing offence. The official name of the country is Zimbabwe. Just thought you might like to know.
reinsnitz: um... that is what is in the list
reinsnitz: Zimbabwe (Rhodesia)
lavinp: I just checked it an Snitz, its still Zimbabwe (Rhodesia) not just Zimbabwe. Its the reference to Rhodesia that is causing the offence.
reinsnitz: ?
reinsnitz: a large population in the world as a whole relate the two
reinsnitz: it is merely a reference,
reinsnitz: this causes offence?
lavinp: Rhodesia doesn't exist anymore and it represents a period in their history when aparthied was at its worst (so I have been told)

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frankie
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Vatican City
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Posted - 19 March 2001 :  20:48:45  Show Profile  Visit frankie's Homepage  Send frankie an AOL message  Send frankie an ICQ Message  Send frankie a Yahoo! Message
The reason I chose Jordan for my country is that I was born there. But I'm originally from Palestine (occupied by Isreal) and I didn't see it listed in the country list. Palestine is a recognized entity by all the united nation an 200 other countries (except for USA and it's sister UK for abovious reasons to do with the Isreali government support..long disbuted discussion). The core of the middle east conflict. Palestine is been a country for thousands of years. heck all three major religions were generated there. To make the long story short I really would love to see a country with over six million people and one of the most educated too, to be listed in the country drop box. Thanks. Peace and God bless

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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  05:10:10  Show Profile
I think that UN must be the only reference. I searched for a "current" country list in the UN site several months ago with no success. Does anyone know a reliable source?

Bulent Ozden
History Foundation of Turkey
bozden@tarihvakfi.org.tr
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gor
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Netherlands
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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  05:32:00  Show Profile  Visit gor's Homepage
There is a chart here: http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/english/htmain.htm
You can find a list here: http://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/english/htmain.htm

Pierre
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Reinsnitz
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USA
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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  09:50:33  Show Profile  Visit Reinsnitz's Homepage  Send Reinsnitz an AOL message  Send Reinsnitz an ICQ Message  Send Reinsnitz a Yahoo! Message
Afghanistan
Albania
Algeria
American Samoa
Andorra
Angola
Anguilla
Antarctica
Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Armenia
Aruba
Australia
Austria
Azerbaijan
Bahamas
Bahrain
Bangladesh
Barbados
Belarus
Belgium
Belize
Benin
Bermuda
Bhutan
Bolivia
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Brazil
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Brunei Darussalam
Bulgaria
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Cambodia
Cameroon
Canada
Cape Verde
Cayman Islands
Central African Republic
Chad
Chile
China
Christmas Island
Cocos (Keeling) Islands
Colombia
Comoros
Congo
Cook Islands
Costa Rica
Côte d'Ivoire
Croatia
Cuba
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Denmark
Djibouti
Dominica
Dominican Republic
East Timor
Ecuador
Egypt
El Salvador
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Falkland Islands (Malvinas)
Faroe Islands
Fiji
Finland
France
French Guiana
French Polynesia
French Southern and Antarctic Territories
Gabon
Gambia
Georgia
Germany
Ghana
Gibraltar
Greece
Greenland
Grenada
Guadeloupe
Guam
Guatemala
Guernsey
Guinea
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Guyana
Haiti
Holy See
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Hong Kong
Hungary
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Lesotho
Liberia
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Liechtenstein
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Macau, China
Madagascar
Malawi
Malaysia
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Mauritania
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Moldova, Republic of
Monaco
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Netherlands
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New Caledonia
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Nicaragua
Niger
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Norfolk Island
Northern Mariana Islands
Norway
Oman
Pakistan
Palau
Palestinian Territory (Occupied)
Panama
Papua New Guinea
Paraguay
Peru
Philippines
Pitcairn Island
Poland
Portugal
Puerto Rico
Qatar
Republic of Korea
Réunion
Romania
Russian Federation
Rwanda
Saint Helena
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Pierre and Miquelon
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Samoa
San Marino
Sao Tome and Principe
Saudi Arabia
Senegal
Seychelles
Sierra Leone
Singapore
Slovakia
Slovenia
Solomon Islands
Somalia
South Africa
Spain
Sri Lanka
Sudan
Suriname
Svalbard and Jan Mayen Islands
Swaziland
Sweden
Switzerland
Syrian Arab Republic
Tajikistan
Thailand
The former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia
Togo
Tokelau
Tonga
Trinidad and Tobago
Tunisia
Turkey
Turkmenistan
Turks and Caicos Islands
Tuvalu
Uganda
Ukraine
United Arab Emirates
United Kingdom
United Republic of Tanzania
United States of America
United States Virgin Islands
Uruguay
Uzbekistan
Vanuatu
Venezuela
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Wallis and Futuna
Western Sahara
Yemen
Yugoslavia
Zambia
Zimbabwe
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Reinsnitz
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USA
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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  09:51:24  Show Profile  Visit Reinsnitz's Homepage  Send Reinsnitz an AOL message  Send Reinsnitz an ICQ Message  Send Reinsnitz a Yahoo! Message
sanity check on that list please.

I am planning on breaking the longer names over to two lines instead of one.

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frankie
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Vatican City
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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  10:05:14  Show Profile  Visit frankie's Homepage  Send frankie an AOL message  Send frankie an ICQ Message  Send frankie a Yahoo! Message
Adding my country to the snitz forum has to go thru some diplomatic means and political bureaucracies I guess. sending my embassador to Minnisota and Amesterdam to discuss the issue with Snitz heads of state will be the next move on my agenda.



Edited by - frankie on 20 March 2001 10:07:18
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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 20 March 2001 :  10:12:06  Show Profile
The official ISO 3166 country list, with the two letter Internet domain suffixes, can be found here

http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/index.html


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Doug G
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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  10:13:28  Show Profile
Oh, and Palestinian Occupied Territory is listed (PS)


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gor
Retired Admin

Netherlands
5511 Posts

Posted - 20 March 2001 :  10:50:56  Show Profile  Visit gor's Homepage
quote:

Adding my country to the snitz forum has to go thru some diplomatic means and political bureaucracies I guess. sending my embassador to Minnisota and Amesterdam to discuss the issue with Snitz heads of state will be the next move on my agenda.



Frankie,

Your made a very good point with your response. And that is that we need something "official" to base our list on. Something that we can use as a quick reference for changes. Without having to go into political debates about "is this a recognised country or not".
The suggestion of bozden to use the UN list wasn't a bad one (I think). Palistine wasn't on that list as far as I know btw. If the list Doug is referring to also is one that is maintained and can be considered "official" I don't think Mike has problems to use that one (I don't in that case).
So that would save you a few trips around the world.



Pierre
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  11:06:28  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
looks like it should be, also

United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

you can shorten it to just United Kingdom no-one uses the full description

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Reinsnitz
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USA
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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  11:54:36  Show Profile  Visit Reinsnitz's Homepage  Send Reinsnitz an AOL message  Send Reinsnitz an ICQ Message  Send Reinsnitz a Yahoo! Message
I would say if it's on either of those lists, or is not on one of those lists, we can make a judgment call ourselves with no obligations to anyone.

The list I put up there is out of the UN's .pdf file they give on their site. Adding the: PALESTINIAN TERRITORY, OCCUPIED
is on the other list, so we'll add it :)

added PALESTINIAN TERRITORY, OCCUPIED to previouse post

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Reinsnitz
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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  12:03:50  Show Profile  Visit Reinsnitz's Homepage  Send Reinsnitz an AOL message  Send Reinsnitz an ICQ Message  Send Reinsnitz a Yahoo! Message
Chopped the UK down to only : United Kingdom in previouse post

Reinsnitz (Mike)
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Reinsnitz
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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  12:04:36  Show Profile  Visit Reinsnitz's Homepage  Send Reinsnitz an AOL message  Send Reinsnitz an ICQ Message  Send Reinsnitz a Yahoo! Message
adding the option for the end user to enter:

Other: __________

With the admin option to allow this or not.

Reinsnitz (Mike)
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frankie
Junior Member

Vatican City
304 Posts

Posted - 20 March 2001 :  15:18:53  Show Profile  Visit frankie's Homepage  Send frankie an AOL message  Send frankie an ICQ Message  Send frankie a Yahoo! Message
Thanks Mike for your Intuitive and intellectual decision.

gor, I didn't know that snitzers have to go thru a list check up and official autherization to state where they're from. All I care if someone said they're from mars and mars let it be. Why I have to be subjected to a list to verify my claim? I think by now every soul in the universe heard about Palestine (I sure read something about it in the Bible). Prior to 1948 (Israel Decleration of Statehood) my parents were born in something called Palestine not in an occupied Palestinian territories. I'm sure if I could convince you of the validity of my claim that will be practically solving the MidEast crisis. Peace



Edited by - frankie on 20 March 2001 15:19:46
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gor
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Netherlands
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Posted - 20 March 2001 :  15:37:52  Show Profile  Visit gor's Homepage
Well, since Mike solved this matter in a intuitive and intellectual way there is no need to go into that.

On a personal note:
You might want to try rereading yours and others posts before you post things.
I was only trying to avoid making matters as complex as you keep making them. We're talking about a list that clearly gets people very excited. If we had a member from Israel reading this topic, he/she would probably be saying exactly the oposite from what you say.
But that is not the point !

1) On your own site, you just add what you like, nobody cares, if you want to add Mars, go ahead (there I go again).
2) We (Mike, myself with input from you guys) have to decide what to put in the source-code and the forum here. I was suggesting to just take something neutral to avoid getting into a political discussion here. And I don't think Mars is going to be on that list.
3) Were do you think the list Mike used comes from ? You think he made them all up ?
4) This isn't about who is more right than the other.




Pierre
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