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kolucoms6
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Posted - 26 February 2008 :  08:29:33  Show Profile
I have around 20 computers.

All computers are in LAN.

All computer gets individual internet through broadband.

Means I have 2 lan cards on each computers.

Now, my employess works between 10 am to 5 pm and they have break time between 12-12:30 and 3-3:30 .

In that time only they are supposed to use internet browsing , other time they can only vist 3-4 websites.

I am looking for a software which can help me in facilating the same.

Can software be installed on each system and time can be controlled from server ?

Edited by - kolucoms6 on 26 February 2008 08:33:56

HuwR
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Posted - 26 February 2008 :  13:13:24  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
you would almost certainly need a centralised proxy server to accomplish what you require with any degree of success, it would be a nightmare to manage on 20 different connections. Why do you not have a single point of connection ?
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AnonJr
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Posted - 26 February 2008 :  13:20:32  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
I was wondering the same thing... the 3 computers at mom's house all connect to the internet via one router. The router limits when my little sister's computer is able to connect based on the MAC address for her laptop. (I entered both the wireless MAC and the wired MAC just in case she ever learned there was a difference )

There are a number of "Small Business" routers that Linksys/Cisco offer that are relatively cheap and can do what you want.
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kolucoms6
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Posted - 26 February 2008 :  14:17:19  Show Profile
Any software based ?
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AnonJr
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Posted - 26 February 2008 :  14:39:02  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
There are probably programs out there, but the higher-end ones are probably meant to run on a single computer running as a proxy.

The Eastover Fire Department has been looking into this and concluded that they were going to wait until the new proxy server came in since there was only one tech and it would be a nightmare trying to keep all 15 PCs up to date. Just a little food for thought...
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kolucoms6
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Posted - 26 February 2008 :  16:02:51  Show Profile
and if I prefer to go for individual program on individual system ?

can you suggest soemthing ?
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AnonJr
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Posted - 26 February 2008 :  16:18:00  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Not really. I just cannot in good faith recommend the kind of solution you are asking for.

Even if you were trying to secure just a single PC, I'd still recommend enforcing the policy with the router instead of an installed piece of software.

Its too easy to bypass a software solution, and too difficult to bypass a hardware solution (barring a weak password) for me to recommend anything else.
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pdrg
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Posted - 28 February 2008 :  14:01:46  Show Profile  Send pdrg a Yahoo! Message
I think what you're after is effectively one of those parental control systems, some of them can have configurable times when different programmes may and may not be run.

There are heaps out there, I'm afraid I have no specific recommendations, but they sound like a close match to your requirements. Not guaranteed unbeatable, but they'll act as a serious barrier, and you can always check the logs at random to check - on point of it being a dismissable offence.
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AnonJr
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Posted - 28 February 2008 :  14:10:19  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
The vast majority of those programs are easily bypassable if you have a semi-knowledgeable worker and they have local admin access.... unless you were managing permissions via AD... which brings us back to a central control center.
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pdrg
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Posted - 29 February 2008 :  11:41:37  Show Profile  Send pdrg a Yahoo! Message
Yep, I know parental controls are often bypassable with a bit of knowledge - but if they're there to keep users honest (as opposed to be a barrier to overcome) they'll work. An occasional scan of the logs under pain of instant dismissal will help focus minds.

I agree a centralised technique would be much better, but seeing as kolucoms6 has 20 independent ADSL lines (not sure why, but that's what he's got it seems.), this may be the only way to go - perhaps used with a group policy or two.
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kolucoms6
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Posted - 29 February 2008 :  11:51:03  Show Profile
Note:

All computers are in LAN ALSO.

All computer gets individual internet through broadband.

Means I have 2 lan cards on each computers
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AnonJr
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Posted - 29 February 2008 :  11:59:44  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
I guess what we're all having such a hard time trying to figure out is why. Why are they hooked up to a LAN and their own individual broadband connection simultaneously?

Unless your broadband is offering better speeds than you can get on the LAN (not likely unless you are running a 10Mbps LAN and have a FIOS connection to each workstation), or unless there's some unique issue that that overcomes, you're really shooting yourself in the foot by doing it this way. Monitoring, tracking, and other management tasks become a nightmare - not to mention its harder to protect 20 points of entry vs. just one.

Edited by - AnonJr on 29 February 2008 12:01:04
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kolucoms6
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Posted - 29 February 2008 :  12:04:45  Show Profile

Broadband is almost 30% of the lease line cost

also, I use a VOIP software which doesnt work on LAN internet , through Proxy.
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AnonJr
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Posted - 29 February 2008 :  12:17:13  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
That makes a little more sense... though there's still a couple of finer points that are escaping me.

I agree that broadband is cheaper - Camp Dixie has their entire staff running off of one satellite connection (the cable co hasn't made it that far out there yet). I've had 15 people at a LAN party running off of my home connection (3Mbps down, don't remember up) - and we all played against some friends in Australia with minimal issues. (of the connection sort ). So while I agree that regular broadband is cheaper than a leased line (esp. for a small office), I'm having a hard time fathoming how you could need that much bandwidth...

...which probably leads to part 2 - the VoIP software that doesn't like proxies. Do they not have a newer version? Last I checked, most of the major players (free and otherwise) play nicely with proxy connections. I would think that given the security issues it would be in their best interest to help you resolve the problems that you had - much less make a version that works behind a proxy. But there may be more to your choice of software than that.

Have you tried to resolve the proxy issues with the VoIP provider?
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kolucoms6
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Posted - 29 February 2008 :  12:29:17  Show Profile

We are using Xlite.

and If I am NOT wrong, it doesnt support proxy.
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AnonJr
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Posted - 29 February 2008 :  12:46:26  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
The requirements only seem to specify "IP network connection (broadband, LAN, wireless)"... might be worth ringing up tech support to find out why its not working - or to see if you still have the latest version.

Unless I'm looking at the wrong product - http://www.counterpath.com/13
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