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JJenson
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Posted - 09 September 2007 :  23:07:15  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
I am looking for some books that I can use to progress my understanding of .asp quicker. I am getting better at manipulating code but I want to be able to start to write my own code.

Also I am trying to learn javascript/ajax and some php so any books on those ones would be wonderful as well?

Thanks everyone

gary b
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Posted - 10 September 2007 :  07:51:59  Show Profile  Visit gary b's Homepage
w3schools has some tutorials on these and other subjects. Although not extensive, these might be good starting point. And they might have a recommended reading list.

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Podge
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Posted - 10 September 2007 :  07:58:02  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
I have a few Wrox books on asp, php5, C#, etc. They are all pretty good.
http://www.wrox.com/WileyCDA/

They use Snitz for their forums too - http://p2p.wrox.com/default.asp

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ruirib
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Posted - 10 September 2007 :  08:03:00  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Yeah, I usually buy Wrox books, usually the Professional Version. I also enjoy PDF books (half the price) from Apress.


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JJenson
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Posted - 10 September 2007 :  10:13:19  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
Thanks guys I actually ran through the W3 stuff a while back or at least ran through a little of it. I am looking for a little more robust book that I can follow along a write my own little programs and it will explain what I am doing. The Wrox site looks very good.

Ok I know this next question might cause some debate. I have a basic understanding of classic .asp. But would it be better for me to learn .Net and then apply what I learn there to stuff I have already learned abotu .asp I knwo .net is the future so just wondered if it would be better money spent and more worth my time to do it that way?

Thanks
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ruirib
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Posted - 10 September 2007 :  10:29:10  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
On ASP 3.0 I can recommended "Professional Active Server Pages 3.0", from Wrox, it's very good. I don't like the ".net version" that much, it's much less informative and seems to cover some issues too lightly.

On .Net, I can recommend "Pro ASP.NET 2.0 in C#2005", from Apress. As I said before, I have the e-book version (PDF), which reads nicely on my tablet PC and costs half the price of a paper book.

That said, I don't think learning ASP.NET will help with classic ASP learning, at all. It's a whole different ball game, so you need to nake the call on what you need the most and go that route, maybe even go both routes.


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JJenson
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Posted - 10 September 2007 :  10:46:15  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
I will probably go both routes then. But I am guessing people are going to start looking for asp.net developers more and more since .asp is phasing out correct?
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ruirib
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Posted - 10 September 2007 :  10:57:09  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
There should be a solid market for both, too many ASP sites to maintain and develop further... and a migration to asp.net means a complete rewrite.

Of course, learning .net is essencial for whoever wants to develop web apps in a Windows environment.


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JJenson
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Posted - 10 September 2007 :  11:02:25  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
Well then I think I will probably start with .asp 3.0 cause that is what my personaly website I am working on is in. Then I will move to asp.net

Somewhere I am also going to learn PHP just cause that is what we use here at work.
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Doug G
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Posted - 10 September 2007 :  21:57:12  Show Profile
I pretty much exclusively use the MSDN library documentation for everything I need. Once you find your way around the library you may agree with me that Microsoft's documentation is quite good (and online!).

The best resources for PHP other than the official documentation are some of the large online forums (and the same for asp). I find forums a better resource than 3rd party books, although you need a good filter on the information you might get from forums

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Panhandler
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Posted - 11 September 2007 :  09:20:27  Show Profile  Visit Panhandler's Homepage
Check the "reviews" on Amazon before purchasing a book.
They can be quite helpful.

Also check the library for "free" books.


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Podge
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Posted - 11 September 2007 :  09:24:15  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
This is also handy

Microsoft's VB 5.6 Reference

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AnonJr
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Posted - 11 September 2007 :  10:02:47  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Podge

This is also handy

Microsoft's VB 5.6 Reference


That has been an absolute saviour when trying to set up a RegEx. (among other things)
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JJenson
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Posted - 11 September 2007 :  10:10:43  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
lol well I need some regex stuff now lol.

The only reason I am not using the MSDN library is I need to have a book that I can start with and do tutorials until I feel like I am getting it. Basically it will help me push myself. Where as if I don't get something like that I will never learn as much.
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Doug G
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Posted - 11 September 2007 :  20:39:08  Show Profile
quote:
The only reason I am not using the MSDN library is I need to have a book that I can start with and do tutorials until I feel like I am getting it.
Each to their own. For myself, I do just the opposite, I start with the actual documentation from the vendor, and then if I get stumped I might look for third-party help. Among other things, that way I know how to find and use the real documentation for whatever I'm working with.


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JJenson
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Posted - 12 September 2007 :  09:57:54  Show Profile  Visit JJenson's Homepage
But I agree Doug about using that when I get stuck I really need to focus on their library cause it will help alot. Thanks for the input.
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