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leatherlips
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Posted - 18 March 2006 :  18:23:00  Show Profile  Visit leatherlips's Homepage
Which of this is ideal? Does it matter? What are the advantages and disadvantages of each?

Thank you.

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laser
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Posted - 18 March 2006 :  19:20:13  Show Profile
Ideal ... hmmm, MySQL maybe

Does it matter ? ... certain mods are written with Access in mind and may strike problems on mySQL, the probability is quite low though

Advantages ... Access is "normal" Windows stuff, mySQL can handle more connections
Disadvantages ... Access will eventually run out of puff on larger sites, to edit mySQL you need to install it or use a web interface like phpMyAdmin

It's a close call either way, but if I knew more about mySQL when I first started I probably would have chosen that over Access. When my forum got "too big" for Access I moved to SQLServer.
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Jezmeister
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Posted - 18 March 2006 :  19:32:00  Show Profile  Visit Jezmeister's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by laser

to edit mySQL you need to install it or use a web interface like phpMyAdmin



Not true, there's a lot of windows compatible and easy-to-use managers for MySql almost all of which are much better than phpMyAdmin.

If the choice is access and mysql and you need to ask then go with access as it's obviously not giving you any grief. If it is struggling with the load then I would definately choose MySql over MS SQL - for cost if nothing else.
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ruirib
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Well, sometimes cost is not limited to what you actually pay. Given the choice of the two, I would always go with SQL Server. Some Snitz code won't work properly with MySQL 5.x, and the problem does not lie with Snitz... For the same amount of data, I've found MySQL needs a lot more tweaking than SQL Server, indexing wise. So, sometimes cost is the least of your problems and you can have good hosting offers with MySQL and SQL Server for the same price or very similar.


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leatherlips
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Posted - 20 March 2006 :  12:30:03  Show Profile  Visit leatherlips's Homepage
Thanks for the replies. I currently have Snitz running on a website using Access and have had zero problems. I am working on another website now and want to use Snitz there as well. I wanted to know if I should just continue to use Access like I'm used to or maybe try the MySQL. I don't anticipate the forum to be very large, so maybe Access will be good.

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spyderuk
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Posted - 22 March 2006 :  20:02:52  Show Profile  Visit spyderuk's Homepage
Leatherlips Access is holding out for me, for now.

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DB is currently 3.63Mb which I think is a healthy size. Forum can be slow sometimes but I think it is a server issue more than anything, seems to be up and down recently.

If you don't have more than around 10-12 active users and around the same details as above you should be fine with access.
I gonna see how far access can go

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AnonJr
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United States
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Posted - 23 March 2006 :  09:04:16  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
Just remember that with Access the key is the volume of simultaneous users. The program I wrote for someone is running into problems not because of how many users there are, but how many users there are at the same time. I'm planning on migrating everything I can to either MySQL or MS SQL (depending on which is available) now so I don't have to worry about it later... but that's just me.
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leatherlips
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Posted - 24 March 2006 :  10:31:07  Show Profile  Visit leatherlips's Homepage
When you say "at the same time", do you mean users that are just browsing? More than that can't browse? Or are you saying that only 10-12 users can "post" at the same time?

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AnonJr
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Posted - 24 March 2006 :  14:22:04  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
I suspect read-only recordsets are a little different, but the basics of what I've read around are that Access databases can't handle much more than 10-12 requests to 'do something'.

Remember that once the page is delivered to the user, they are no longer using up a connection to the database (or the server for that matter). Also, as mentioned elsewhere in these forums, for the big operations instead of opening a recordset and running through it (which uses up one of those connections) it dumps the recordset into an array and works with the array leaving more potential connections available.

Its worth noting that the '10-12' number is a rough guesstimate and really depends on code optimization, memory, (probably) which drivers you are using, (probably) what version of the drivers you are using, and probably more things than what I know of. Having said that, my experience has shown that its a good number to work by.

I'm probably not the most knowledgeable person on databases here on this forum, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I know a lot about database design and use (normalizing data, setting up tables and relationships etc.), but not as much about the nuts and bolts of database engines.... Did I just help clarify or confuse?
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