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Astralis
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  00:23:05  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message
I am installing a new system and have to setup SQL Server and Enterprise Manager on my machine. I did this last time by downloading something on Microsoft and it didn't require me to pay. Is it the desktop engine?

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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  04:26:18  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
To have EM must have been the SQL Server Trial.


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Astralis
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  06:13:25  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message
I keep thinking it's MSDE. Whatever it was installed MSSQL Server onto my PC and I was able to manage tables and hold data using EM.

Here are two links where I talked about it and downloaded it:
Link One
Link Two

Some Questions

Will the SQL Server 2005 Express edition provide me with all the space I need to hold backups of tables?

Does it come with EM?

My SQL Server on my hosted account is MSSQL Server 2000. Will this upgrade still work?

If I did use MSDE before, which I think I did, is that still available to download?

Edited by - Astralis on 26 January 2006 06:26:43
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HuwR
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  06:14:04  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
There is a .net version of EM that is free.
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ruirib
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  06:24:24  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
With SQL Server 2000 you could just install the client tools (which included EM). Don't know the exact situation with SQL Server 2005, but there's still a trial. Anyway, the developer edition of SQL 2000 had a cost of $50. Likely that won't have changed with SQL 2005 and the price makes it probably worthy.


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Astralis
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  06:28:28  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message
First, thanks HuwR and ruirib for helping.

I asked some questions in my edited post (I was editing it as you both replied).
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Astralis
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  06:34:56  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message
HuwR, what's this .net version of EM?

The questions above might help with the following question: Does EM allow me to save and view the files locally on my own machine? Somehow, the version that I had last time installed a MSSQL Server on my PC. Is this part of EM? Or do I have to find is separately?

I am quite certain this is the link I used to download the applications:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/msde/

It now goes to the SQL Server 2005 Express, though. So, I think it was the Desktop Engine.

Edited by - Astralis on 26 January 2006 06:35:44
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AnonJr
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  07:15:22  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage
These guys are giving away the "Lite" versions of their software for free. For most of what you need, it should be ok. (and the 'free' helps a lot too )

http://www.sqlmanager.net/
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ruirib
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  08:09:27  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
There is no MSDE any longer. 2005 version is named SQL Server 2005 Express Edition. I don't think it comes with EM, no. An Access Data Project can be used to control a SQL Server DB, so you may try it.

Maybe you can give a go at the SQL Server trial edition. It's good for 180 days.


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HuwR
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  08:34:05  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Astralis

HuwR, what's this .net version of EM?


it is a web manager for MSSQL http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=C039A798-C57A-419E-ACBC-2A332CB7F959&displaylang=en
quote:

The questions above might help with the following question: Does EM allow me to save and view the files locally on my own machine? Somehow, the version that I had last time installed a MSSQL Server on my PC. Is this part of EM? Or do I have to find is separately?


EM is or was part of MSSQL, MSDE has now been superceded by the 2005 Express version which I don't think includes EM.
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Podge
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  10:52:23  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
There is a newer version of Enterprise Manager for SQL 2005 called something like SQL Management Console. Its currently beta and I have it installed at home. Its a separate download. I will post a link later if I can find it.

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Podge
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  11:57:48  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
Its called SQL Server Management Studio Express and its available here - http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=82AFBD59-57A4-455E-A2D6-1D4C98D40F6E&displaylang=en

(There is a link to it on the same page you download SQL Server 2005 Express)

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Astralis
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  16:06:56  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message
Has anyone tried it? Are there limitations to it?
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Podge
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  16:21:11  Show Profile  Send Podge an ICQ Message  Send Podge a Yahoo! Message
I've been using it to admin Sql Express 2005 while learning dotNet 2.0. Haven't tested it extensively but it seems to connect to MSDE ok. It looks like it could be a cut down version of the "real" thing i.e. DTS (Copy Wizard) seems to be missing.

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Astralis
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Posted - 26 January 2006 :  18:37:18  Show Profile  Send Astralis a Yahoo! Message
I found SQL Server 2000 software in my files and I loaded it and now I have it installed with Enterprise Manager. I guess I did have this in the past. I don't know how, though.

Now that SQL Server 2005 is out, what is everyone using to manage it? SQL Server Management Studio?

Can I use that with SQL Server 2000? Is it scalable?
quote:

DTS (Copy Wizard) seems to be missing



Wow. It looks like HuwR's suggestion of using the web-based .NET EM might be the best choice.

Edited by - Astralis on 26 January 2006 18:50:07
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ruirib
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Posted - 28 January 2006 :  06:12:28  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
SQL Server Management Studio replaced EM. DTS is still there, even if integrated, but it was also accessible from EM.


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