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leatherlips
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USA
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Posted - 27 August 2005 :  15:58:18  Show Profile  Visit leatherlips's Homepage
I have a theoretical question I would like to have answered.

Say I have a database with 1000 members and they all post frequently over a period of a year.

If I were to delete them directly from the database, not just their names, but the entire row, would all of their posts remain intact?

Could they then re-register with a different name but use their original email address?

(I am using this forum for a school. The students each year would need to update their usernames to reflect the grades and teams they are on).

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Jezmeister
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Posted - 27 August 2005 :  18:29:02  Show Profile  Visit Jezmeister's Homepage
deleting their row in the tables column would not delete posts. they would i suppose be able to register again under a different name... you could just as easily as the super admin change their name in profile though if that's all you're wanting to do. you could also edit the code to allow them to change it at any time, i think theres a mod for that somewhere.

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leatherlips
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Posted - 27 August 2005 :  18:31:57  Show Profile  Visit leatherlips's Homepage
Thanks for your reply.

I don't think it would be feasible for me to change over 1000 students usernames. That's why I'd like to delete them so they can update their new name the next year on their own. But I wanted to be sure the original posts would remain. Would the posts all have an n/a next to them at that point?

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Jezmeister
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Posted - 27 August 2005 :  18:46:37  Show Profile  Visit Jezmeister's Homepage
to be honest I don't know what it would say, i dont have access to a snitz db at the moment and while i know the code i dont know the db all that well... have a look - if it says under posted by or similar, a name (in the topic/post table) you're fine, if it says a number (member id) then it may throw an error at you. i'm not entirely certain what it would do - everytime i've dealt with a member who has done enough to be deleted and has posted ive simply locked them and changed their title.

would it be feasible to simpy install the mod for a certain amount of time, make sure noones screwing you around then return the code to what it used to be so they can no longer change it?

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leatherlips
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Posted - 27 August 2005 :  20:09:13  Show Profile  Visit leatherlips's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Jezmeister

would it be feasible to simpy install the mod for a certain amount of time, make sure noones screwing you around then return the code to what it used to be so they can no longer change it?

That sounds like a good idea. Where is this mod at? I've looked on SnitzBitz but couldn't find it.

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Jezmeister
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Posted - 27 August 2005 :  22:28:37  Show Profile  Visit Jezmeister's Homepage
im not sure... if it doesn't exist it wouldn't be all that hard to create it... have a around here- if you can't find anything, look for the mod tha allows members to change their own titles - following the way that changes things but editing it to your own needs should be enough.
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ruirib
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Posted - 28 August 2005 :  05:49:00  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Do not delete them from the database, otherwise the forum code will stop working, since the posts will not have a corresponding record in the members table as post authors. Only if you use the forum member delete function will n/a be used instead of their user names.


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Duby
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Posted - 22 September 2005 :  09:57:22  Show Profile
How can I see if I have ever deleted any member from forum?
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ruirib
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Posted - 22 September 2005 :  10:38:12  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Don't you know ? You can have a look for members named n/a. If you deleted members without posts, there's no way to know about them.


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Shaggy
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Posted - 22 September 2005 :  10:39:49  Show Profile
If you deleted any non-posting members then the sequence of MEMBER_ID will be broken where their record was removed.


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ruirib
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Portugal
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Posted - 22 September 2005 :  11:42:28  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Unless you're using Access and you have compacted the DB after the deletion...


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MarcelG
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Posted - 22 September 2005 :  13:48:36  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by ruirib

Unless you're using Access and you have compacted the DB after the deletion...

That's not entirely correct afaik.
Let's say you've got 10 members (1 to 10)
You delete member 7
So, now you've got members 1 to 10 excluding 7.
If you compact the db, I do not expect the next registering member to be number 7 again ? Or am I wrong?
not that it really matters anyway

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ruirib
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Posted - 22 September 2005 :  13:54:33  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Yes, it won't fill in gaps among existing numbers. My point is that if the members have not posted, you cannot really be sure that members have not been deleted, if you are using Access. Some deletions will be obvious, agreed.

In the forum I used to administer, deleting the latest user was a common thing. Many users forgot their details and registered again. Curiously, just today I deleted the latest member, at his own request, at this very forum.


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waynem
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Posted - 26 October 2005 :  12:39:08  Show Profile  Visit waynem's Homepage
I would like to remove the N/A's from the database, along with any posts they have made. Is there a cleanup mod or way to do this? I tried to delete them from the member listing - I have like 30 pages of them now - but although I do not get an error message, nothing is actually being deleted.
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ruirib
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Posted - 26 October 2005 :  14:16:18  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
There is no mod that I know of. Anyway, do not delete the users while they have posts, or your forum will stop working.


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waynem
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Posted - 26 October 2005 :  14:38:56  Show Profile  Visit waynem's Homepage
Thanks...there must be something in the code that prevents them from being deleted, but I wish there was a way. Too much excess baggage filling up the database, and I wanted to slim down as much as possible before converting Access to SQL.
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