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SimonT
Junior Member

United Kingdom
202 Posts

Posted - 04 September 2000 :  08:12:37  Show Profile
I know this is not for every one but I just started off writing this mod it will not be every ones cup of tea but I hope some will like it. I am going to be useing a component that is not free to do the sms sending :-(( well its free for me as my company wrote it but what I will do is write one so that you can send it out of a free email to sms system the code should be ready in about 4 days. If any one wants has any ideas on this then let me know and I will try and add them one thing I will try and do is keep the cell number hidden as you do not want other people to see your cell phone number and start calling you. Aso some thing that looks at the country that it is sending it to and only sends it beween the hours of 9:00am and 5:30pm or some thing. I have seen this option on some where before on a sms site.
Any one know of any good email to sms sites then let me know.

Lord Maverick
New Member

Norway
92 Posts

Posted - 04 September 2000 :  11:29:05  Show Profile  Send Lord Maverick an ICQ Message
SimonT

I think this mod sounds really interesting... Look forward to see your coding.

When thinking of my forum I would like (as a forum administrator) to be able to receive a SMS message on my cellular phone whenever those forums I've marked with this option is being posted to. If one where to integrate it to the forum also for the users (which I think should be done) I think it would be nice to integrate such a feature when posting a new forum - just like you can choose if you want to be notified by email when someone replies to a post.

Maybe such a feature should be up to the Administrator to define if it is to be used or not on the forum.

It would be nice if such an SMS could actually send the message that has been posted at the forum, not only a message that a post has been posted. Don't know if this is what you were thinking of. You will have to find a way to disregard smilies, URLs,images etc.

In my opinion the sending of SMS should not need to be restricted to a periode smaller than from 0830am to 9:00pm - but that is my opinion.

Maybe you will encounter some problems as to the different cell phone services that exists, like Cellnet (UK), Metromedia, Mobistar, Telia etc. This should probably be something the administrator should set to the forum, and then at least the national users should be able to use. Or do you have a solution so that this feature could be global for all cellular phones???

If I'm not wrong the actual sending of an SMS will trigger payment to the provider of SMS-mails, or are there any free providers out there (I think I've seen a South African site with free SMS). Or is this maybe a component with a one-time-payment... <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

I think I would be interested in paying a reasonable amount of money to have such a feature on my forum.





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SimonT
Junior Member

United Kingdom
202 Posts

Posted - 04 September 2000 :  12:28:01  Show Profile
The site you are thinking of is
http://www2.mtnsms.com this site is free and it will send to about 90% of all phone networks. The only problem I see with sending the whole post to the phone is that you can only send 160 characters per message so you might create a back log if you are not carefull I agree with every thing you say I think this will be a nice mod to do and play with.
What I might do is try and see if Ican attach my self on to that server and send to it from a script there is a example on http://www.4guysfromrolla.com/webtech/040600-1.shtml
I might try it out and see what I can do. I will let you know my finding. Another thing that might cause a problem sms is not as relibale as email some times the msg does not send eg network busy how will I let the end user know there was a problem sending mmm have to think about that one.


Edited by - simonT on 04 September 2000 15:11:18
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Lord Maverick
New Member

Norway
92 Posts

Posted - 05 September 2000 :  08:56:24  Show Profile  Send Lord Maverick an ICQ Message
SimonT,

The site in your link maybe works in 90 % of the countries, but it doesn't work on several of the major Scandinavian cell phone companies, as they have rejected to support this free feature. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

However, there are a few sites in Scandinavia that supports free SMS. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

One that seems to work for the major cell phone companies in both Sweden and Norway (haven't been able to test this for any other Scandinavian cell phone companies), is this site. They have a maximum length of any SMS to 144 characters.



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SimonT
Junior Member

United Kingdom
202 Posts

Posted - 05 September 2000 :  13:12:02  Show Profile
Looks like a great site ok I have riped out the code that I need from it and I will try and use the code but its all in. I need to do some translantion speacial on the error codes

First one what does.
SMS ej på väg!

Du kan endast använda sms-tjänsten från sms.passagen.se! mean

And
Ja, jag accepterar användarvillkoren

does that mean yes I agree with the statment

If you could tell me what the error statements mean in this it would be great
<pre id=code><font face=courier size=2 id=code>


<!--
function tipsa(){ // Coded by mathias@passagen.se
url = "/global/cgi/tipsa.cgi?url=" + document.location.href;
open(url, "tipsa", "height=331,width=452");
}
// -->
</SCRIPT>


</style>
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
<!--

// Mathias råxxar

var antalTecken = 144;
var inskrivnaTecken = 0;

function MaxTecken(form) {
inskrivnaTecken = parseInt(document.sms.text.value.length);
antalTecken = 144 - inskrivnaTecken;
if (antalTecken >= 0) {
document.sms.kvar.value = antalTecken;
if(document.all) setTimeout("MaxTecken(document.forms[0])", 1000);
} else {
document.sms.text.value = document.sms.text.value.substring(0,144);
document.sms.kvar.value = 0;
}
}

function skicka() {
ok = true;
inskrivnaTecken = parseInt(document.sms.text.value.length);
if(document.sms.nummer.value.length > 12 || document.sms.nummer.value.length < 10 ){
alert("Nummret du angivit är felaktigt, försök igen.");
ok=false;

}

if(!document.sms.text.value != ""){
alert("Du har inte skrivit något meddelande");
ok=false;
}

if(!document.sms.accept.checked){
alert("Du har inte godkänt användarvillkoren!");
ok=false;
}

if(inskrivnaTecken > 144) {
alert("Texten du skrivit är längre än 144 tecken! Du måste korta ner ditt meddelande.");
ok = false;
}
if(ok){
document.sms.submit();
}
}


// -->
</font id=code></pre id=code>

Edited by - Richard Kinser on 28 February 2001 10:25:04
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YNG
Starting Member

Sweden
3 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2000 :  03:00:42  Show Profile
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
SMS ej på väg!

Du kan endast använda sms-tjänsten från sms.passagen.se!
<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

... well I think that this quote is the only one that needs translating since it says it all <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

It goes something like this:

"SMS not sent! You can only use this SMS-service from sms.passagen.se!"

... sorry ...

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Lord Maverick
New Member

Norway
92 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2000 :  03:44:56  Show Profile  Send Lord Maverick an ICQ Message
Simon T,

I could translate every error message in your post, if this is what you are going to use as your basis for the code. Tell me if this is the case and I'll translate it for you. The first error message is as YNG translated it.

There are several other pages in Scandinavia that offers free SMS, but most of the uses the MTN host in South Africa.

I've found one site that have collected a lot of SMS-services like this in Scandinavia and Europe. The site is in Swedish but is full of links to SMS sites around Europe -
expage.com


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ISJX_YICK
New Member

France
68 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2000 :  07:07:42  Show Profile  Visit ISJX_YICK's Homepage  Send ISJX_YICK an ICQ Message
hmmm i've got a french site to send sms : http://www.smsgratuit.com

is there a way to get the code working with it ? it is only 130 char max but i have to try that nice feature ... let me know plz

WOW THAT's NICE !!!
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SimonT
Junior Member

United Kingdom
202 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2000 :  08:23:43  Show Profile
I am going to sweeden this Friday so I can get this page translated over there but thank you I am not sure if that page will work out I have to some how pass the infomation to the sms sender page but it does a look up and check to see what pager you are coming from and if you are not on the page sms.passagen.se then it will not send the French site that I am testing now will not aloow me to send to the UK so I cannot test to see if it is working does any one know of any Other pages we can test That list looks good but as I do not speak sweedish I have problems als there are links from the French site but again its hard for me as I speak only a little french.
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BOFH
Starting Member

1 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2000 :  12:00:04  Show Profile
Forgive me if I've missed the point here, but it seems to me there's an easier way to do this.

Rather than write a mod that handles sending the sms message itself, why not create a new section on the user profile for a second e-mail address. This address could then be used for one of the free web-to-sms services that seem to be cropping up on a regular basis (e.g. the genie web site for UK users). Provide all the features listed in this thread in whatever form you want using this address as the recipient of the message, update etc. This gets you around the problem of dealing with users from different areas and should be relativley easy to code?

As I said, I'm probably missing something obvious here.
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SimonT
Junior Member

United Kingdom
202 Posts

Posted - 07 September 2000 :  03:39:20  Show Profile
At the moment I do not mind for this mod if I user a web to sms or email to sms I just want to find a site that will be able to send to most sms phones what I might do is have a few and when you set up your profle you have to say where you are based. So What I can say is if you want this mod to work for your phone network then please hunt out a email to sms gateway or if you don't have any luck send me a email to say what network you are on and where you are and I will try and find out some info. If we all work together on this I think this will be a great mod. I will be away for about 1 week but as soon as I get back I will finish this mod off
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SimonT
Junior Member

United Kingdom
202 Posts

Posted - 23 September 2000 :  11:20:06  Show Profile
ok well it might look like I have been sleeping on this mod but i have been a bit busy but i have some good news and bad news i have worked out how to use most web based forms thats the good news the bad news is that you have to use perl. I have a beta version that I am running that I will let you guys have the sorce code for very soon as this forum is ment to be a forum for code and as yet I do not have any in my post the perl script that I am useing can be found http://phiphi.hypermart.net/elza-entry.html
I will post the code very soon jsuyt got a few bugs to sort out first.

How many times have you been tempted to kick the box?

How many times have you kicked the box?

How many times has the box kicked back?
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cyberd
Starting Member

Australia
34 Posts

Posted - 28 February 2001 :  09:04:56  Show Profile  Visit cyberd's Homepage
Sounds great to me, how did you go?

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KXS
New Member

Canada
66 Posts

Posted - 28 February 2001 :  11:56:23  Show Profile  Send KXS an ICQ Message
Wow,

I was thinking of the same thing, except not just sms, but "text messaging", our service provider is not on the GSM network. We can only recieve text messaging. Check out the following website: http://www.airsourceweb.com/MOTD.ASP. This messaging feature is developed in ASP. The kewl thing is you can create a group, and mass message the group. This works on my cell phone, I am located in BC, Canada. So, it would be nice to have the option of having SMS, and "text messaging".

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"keeping it real"
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frankie
Junior Member

Vatican City
304 Posts

Posted - 28 February 2001 :  14:00:57  Show Profile  Visit frankie's Homepage  Send frankie an AOL message  Send frankie an ICQ Message  Send frankie a Yahoo! Message
Any good news yet?!

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cyberd
Starting Member

Australia
34 Posts

Posted - 17 March 2001 :  01:28:30  Show Profile  Visit cyberd's Homepage
Sounds Great - I would be interested in it.

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