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arnold
Starting Member
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 Posted - 26 April 2005 : 05:00:55
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Recently a guy posted a 'political incorrect' joke on my Snitz forum. Without my support the police arrested him; somehow they found his IP and got his name/ adress from the ISP.
Is it possible the police can trace IP adresses from the Snitz database? If so how can i prevent this for the future?
Offcourse am i willing to give IP information to the police but only with a warrant/ order from a judge. |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 April 2005 : 05:12:26
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You can't be arrested for being "politicaly incorrect" being a racist ****er maybe
anyway they don't need Snitz to track you down, they have such things as IIS logs which tell you all the info they would need |
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arnold
Starting Member
27 Posts |
Posted - 26 April 2005 : 06:27:49
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In the Netherlands you CAN be arrested for political incorrect humor. A well know muslim could wish a member of our parliament dead on primetime TV, without any problem from the justice department, but a guy on my forum called a legal defender of a muslimterrorist a traitor and wished him dead also. He was arrested for that, had to be in jail for 2 days, and will be in court next month. Again; he made THE SAME joke about the lawyer. In the Netherlands we are still suffering from WWII. As we helped the Nazi's getting jews better than any other country in Europa we now are afraid to comment strangers. And compare muslims with jews.
But forget the politics; i was wondering HOW the police got his IP. I did not turnover my IP details to the police and my ISP did not give IIS6.0 loggins to them.
So HOW can the police tracks IP information? Perhaps a leak in Snitz??? |
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator
Netherlands
2625 Posts |
Posted - 26 April 2005 : 06:46:31
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Arnold ; I live in the same country as you do, and I'm very certain you won't be arrested for a politically incorrect joke.
If you threathen to kill someone ; that's a whole different ballgame! But 'wishing someone dead' isn't illegal.
There's a difference between wishing and threathening.
Another thing ; you were talking about a joke ...where's the joke in threathening to kill someone ?
However, technically ontopic ; if your ISP hasn't given the IIS logs, the police cannot have captured him based on his IP. That's simply impossible.
There's no leak in Snitz that could provide this kind of information, unless you've got your db available for download to the public.
And even then, the police simply won't know that there's info in that db about the IP. |
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Edited by - MarcelG on 26 April 2005 06:51:07 |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20600 Posts |
Posted - 26 April 2005 : 06:53:32
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| The police can monitor pretty much all webtraffic if they so desire, it sounds to me like he was most likely being watched in the first place and they were monitoring him not your snitz forum |
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arnold
Starting Member
27 Posts |
Posted - 26 April 2005 : 08:46:06
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Originally posted by marcelgoertz
Arnold ; I live in the same country as you do, and I'm very certain you won't be arrested for a politically incorrect joke.
If you threathen to kill someone ; that's a whole different ballgame! But 'wishing someone dead' isn't illegal.
There's a difference between wishing and threathening.
Believe it or not but a guy wished the office of Britta Bohler (the same lawyer who defended a terrorist from the PKK, the same office who defended the murderer of Pim Fortuyn, the same office who defended Samir A.) the same as Abdul Jabar van der Ven wished Geert Wilders. He was arrested and had to be in jail for two days.
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Another thing ; you were talking about a joke ...where's the joke in threathening to kill someone ?
It's not my sense of humor but he made a sarcastic 'wish' on the day the judge let the terrorist Samir A. free. I can imagine people getting ****ed up after this news.
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However, technically ontopic ; if your ISP hasn't given the IIS logs, the police cannot have captured him based on his IP. That's simply impossible.
There's no leak in Snitz that could provide this kind of information, unless you've got your db available for download to the public.
And even then, the police simply won't know that there's info in that db about the IP.
After reading the reply in this topics i called my provider. Alhtough they do not have to give the police IP information without a court-order the provider helped the police. The police used 'pressure' by the way making indirect threats.
To prevent this kind of abuse i am going to a provider in the US. |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20600 Posts |
Posted - 26 April 2005 : 08:54:24
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To prevent this kind of abuse i am going to a provider in the US
And you think that will help ? they are even more paranoid than we are, check out some of the canabis forums (most of which are based in Canada for the same reason you want to move yours to the US  )
If someone publishes something on a website that warrants arresting them, then they should be arrested and you should cooperate with the police, normal law abiding people have nothing to hide. |
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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator
Netherlands
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Ranko
Junior Member
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Posted - 27 April 2005 : 04:43:20
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Originally posted by marcelgoertz
@HuwR ; that's an advantage of speaking Dutch ; the FBI cannot read it (easily) 
But OTOH the CIA... . |
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