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mios
Junior Member
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 Posted - 08 March 2005 : 15:13:32
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Mios, you have tried to make this point once before /forum/topic.asp?topic_id=24862, and were then given the answer, if you still have a problem with the answer you were given, I suggest you contact the author of ASP-Dev who will put you straight.
I have contacted him (john penfold) an he confirmed the origional asp-dev forum was released under the GPL, so this forum is violating his license!
One interesting point to note on http://www.asp-dev.com/main.asp?page=1 there is a coment:
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A number of other groups took the code (would of been nice if they would have asked!)
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
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Posted - 08 March 2005 : 15:21:09
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I might be naive, but does the GPL say you have to ask first ?
I thought it just meant you could use it, but had to provide full source code. |
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mios
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 March 2005 : 15:31:04
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Originally posted by laser
I might be naive, but does the GPL say you have to ask first ?
I thought it just meant you could use it, but had to provide full source code.
Yes that is the case, but you also have to respect the origional license... So the fact that snitz has additional requirements (link back) means that at the minimum the link back is not required and it's even possible that snitz it's self is in violation of the GPL as it didn't respect the GPL of the origional code. |
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
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Posted - 08 March 2005 : 15:32:06
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mios, in what way are we violating his license? He released under the GPL. We are releasing it under the GPL. Apart from the accusations xyzzy is making, what else are you saying we are violating?
His comment is not reffering to Snitz. John Penfold was a developer here when Snitz was started. He helped us out with the code. So he had every knowledge what we were doing and was part of it. He also told us that he didn't want any reference back to him, but we insisted. |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
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Posted - 08 March 2005 : 15:40:52
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So the fact that snitz has additional requirements (link back)
SO what ?? If it's not covered by the GPL then under the rules of common decency and acknowledgement of the investment of time I keep the link there.
Hyptothetically, let's say you can remove the link. Personally I don't help anyone who has removed the link and I think most other people here are the same. You are going to want help one day I guess  |
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mios
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 March 2005 : 15:41:07
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Originally posted by Davio
mios, in what way are we violating his license? He released under the GPL. We are releasing it under the GPL. Apart from the accusations xyzzy is making, what else are you saying we are violating?
His comment is not reffering to Snitz. John Penfold was a developer here when Snitz was started. He helped us out with the code. So he had every knowledge what we were doing and was part of it. He also told us that he didn't want any reference back to him, but we insisted.
But snitz isn't technicly GPL (as the link back requirement isn't part of the GPL). Unless this forum complies to the GPL which xyzzy is saying it isn't then snitzis in violation.
John Penfold wrote the origional asp-dev forum which snitz is derived from, saying that he helped out with the code is a bit of an understatement as the asp-dev forum was a complete forum which snitz took and modified.
My email from him (as well as his website) indicated there was not much in the way of permission given, in fact the reason he stopped dveoping thr forum was that he was miffed of the number of groups that took his code and made it there own. |
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
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Posted - 08 March 2005 : 16:20:33
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My email from him (as well as his website) indicated there was not much in the way of permission given, in fact the reason he stopped dveoping thr forum was that he was miffed of the number of groups that took his code and made it there own.
"Miffed at the number of groups". Why do you think Snitz is in that group he is reffering to?
When I say he helped put with the code, I meant he actually helped us continue with the development after we started Snitz from his code.
I would suggest you email him back and ask him his thoughts on Snitz, instead of assuming he is reffering to Snitz in the groups that took his code. I know for a fact that John and Mike were in good standing at the time Mike decided to create Snitz based off of his work. Not to mention that permission was asked from John. |
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
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Posted - 08 March 2005 : 19:45:15
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In fact, I think this topic has been exhausted. xyzzy has made his point and intentions known. The admins have made thier point. If the Snitz copyright holders plan to do anything about what has been discussed, the Snitz community will know about it.
So I move to close the topic. All in favour say I. All against say nothing.  |
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