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Ranko
Junior Member

400 Posts

Posted - 26 November 2004 :  10:03:17  Show Profile
As Firefox got out, and the popularity of the browser is growing I have seen this quite a few times, and thought to mention it.

Snitz is using the acronym tag incorrectly in both the footer, the header and the active topics pages. That results in some of the links displayed with the dotted underline - which is just Firefox's display for the acronym tag.

If these could be reworked with the proper alts in a tags, it would follow the W3C standards, and create a better web (ok, idealism aside, it would be better, 'cause standard compliance = good).

dayve
Forum Moderator

USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 26 November 2004 :  11:39:21  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
I'm not held up on the whole compliance thing. Although I always try to ensure my projects work on the Big 4, I don't fret over some of this little stuff.

With that said, I've never like the acronym tag anyway

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MarkJH
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1722 Posts

Posted - 26 November 2004 :  11:45:03  Show Profile  Visit MarkJH's Homepage
I've been doing a lot of testing with Firefox recently (as I rebuild my forum with CSS) and noticed the same.

Is there any kind of workaround?

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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator

Austria
4969 Posts

Posted - 26 November 2004 :  11:48:43  Show Profile  Visit OneWayMule's Homepage  Send OneWayMule an ICQ Message
I did remove the acronym tags and added the title attribute to the navigation links of my forum.

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MarcelG
Retired Support Moderator

Netherlands
2625 Posts

Posted - 26 November 2004 :  13:45:21  Show Profile  Visit MarcelG's Homepage
The Acronym tag is used incorreclty indeed.
http://www.accessify.com/tools-and-wizards/acrobot/why-you-should-use-acronyms-and-abbreviations.asp
quote:
An acronym is a special kind of abbreviation. Either by luck or design, the initial letters make up an abbreviation that can be read aloud as a word in its own right:
NASA pronounced "Nassa"
GUI pronounced "Gooey"

So, it's incorrect to use the acronym tags instead of href title-value even though it works the same in IE.
I've removed them also, but considering the initial purpose of the acronym tag I guess it should be considered an improvement in the basecode to replace these acronym tags by normal href titles.

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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 26 November 2004 :  13:46:16  Show Profile
Ohhh. I didn't even notice that if you didn't tell me. lol
I think we can keep this in mind for the next update.

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Ranko
Junior Member

400 Posts

Posted - 26 November 2004 :  14:42:25  Show Profile
The only workaround is manually removing them (not a problem, and I think I allready listed every acronym in Snitz).

FAQ should have it, obviously.
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 26 November 2004 :  15:50:40  Show Profile
I'm pretty sure the Acronym tags are there so that the Tooltips work with older versions of Netscape. It's something like that. But I know they are there for a reason.
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Da_Stimulator
DEV Team Forum Moderator

USA
3373 Posts

Posted - 30 November 2004 :  02:51:51  Show Profile  Send Da_Stimulator an AOL message  Send Da_Stimulator a Yahoo! Message
whats the basis for compatibility? ... like whats the lowest version you're "trying" to be compatible with?

Just curious

I dont see a point in going any lower than 4.0 browsers (IE & Netscape)... obviously some third party browsers havnt made it that far in version numbers though but stay compatible to them also.

-Stim

Edited by - Da_Stimulator on 30 November 2004 03:32:11
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 30 November 2004 :  03:18:50  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
could someone tell me what problem this is causing them ?I am currently browsing the forum with firfox and don't see any difference to IE
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Da_Stimulator
DEV Team Forum Moderator

USA
3373 Posts

Posted - 30 November 2004 :  03:34:03  Show Profile  Send Da_Stimulator an AOL message  Send Da_Stimulator a Yahoo! Message
I'm not saying its causing a problem, because its not (I'm viewing via FireFox also).

I was just curious as to the older browsers that exist, what the future programming basis is for those....

Are future versions going to be XHTML/CSS compliant...? I'm not asking specific to the acronym tag.

-Stim
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