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seahorse
Senior Member

USA
1075 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2004 :  10:42:56  Show Profile  Visit seahorse's Homepage
Alfred,

I think you might want to also factor the new host's system reliability, financial stability into your selection process.

No offence intended, but I also think you'd be better off asking a professional to build your site for you whatever route you go. If trouble happens to your site, you'll want someone who'll be able to fix things immediately. That's not the time to go into a PHP forum and asking for help. After all it's going to be a business, not a hobby right?



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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
1527 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2004 :  11:12:57  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by seahorse

Alfred,
I think you might want to also factor the new host's system reliability, financial stability into your selection process.
Yes, but that is pretty intangible, and not easily assessed as the numbers data.
quote:
No offence intended, but I also think you'd be better off asking a professional to build your site for you whatever route you go.
No offense taken at all, this is good advice, and something I have considered as well. However, I do want to be self-sufficient eventually, and emergency may be a good incentive.
quote:
If trouble happens to your site, you'll want someone who'll be able to fix things immediately. That's not the time to go into a PHP forum and asking for help. After all it's going to be a business, not a hobby right?
That is true, but I want to have it all click flawlessly before I market my service. I know I will need to get comprehensive documentation and reference material for php.

Alfred
The Battle Group
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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
1527 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2004 :  12:11:22  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
quote:
take a look at Reddi-Web for example, from the standard plan up there are no restrictions on webspace
Hi Mule! ReddiWeb looks pretty competitive allright, although not quite cutting it:

Mine:
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$3.95/month
• 5 GB of Web Space
• 20GB Bandwidth
• Ensim Control Panel
• No Setup Fee
• 5000 Pop3 Accounts
• Webmail
• FTP Access
• 5 Subdomains (http://something.yourdomain.com)
• Cgi, PHP, perl, etc.
• Front page Support
• Static IP
• 30 Day Money Back Guarantee
=====================================================================

ReddiWeb:
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6.25/month for 250MB space
£10 per month for each extra 10Gb
£10 per month for Dedicated IP (required for SSL)
over $26.25/month!
or:
£20/month unrestricted web space, 10GB bandwidth.
£40/month unrestricted web space, 20GB bandwidth, dedicated IP.
deduct 10% for prepayment, and you still pay £36 not $ but pounds!
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At about 10 times my cost - do you see what a deal I am talking about?
Hard to resist!

Alfred
The Battle Group
CREDO
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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator

Austria
4969 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2004 :  13:04:54  Show Profile  Visit OneWayMule's Homepage  Send OneWayMule an ICQ Message
I personally wouldn't trust a host that is offering that including 20GB bandwidth and a static IP for 3.95$ a month... remember you always get what you pay for, and I can tell that Huw's service is worth every single cent simply because of the high quality of the service.

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Alfred
Senior Member

USA
1527 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2004 :  15:06:38  Show Profile  Visit Alfred's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by OneWayMule

I personally wouldn't trust a host that is offering that including 20GB bandwidth and a static IP for 3.95$ a month... remember you always get what you pay for, and I can tell that Huw's service is worth every single cent simply because of the high quality of the service.

That is about the only thing that worries me, that it sounds too good to be true. But if it IS true...? One way to find out is to try it.
I have no doubt that Huw's service is very good, but I had a bad experience with it last year. I actually subscribed, and transferred a years' prepayment to London. When I got no response for a couple of days I left mail for Huw, which never got answered. Eventually I found out that my payment had been returned, without reason given.
It cost me fees for two transfers and currency fluctuation against me.
In consideration of who it was I did not follow up any further, but it was obviously something I would not have taken without comment from any stranger.

Alfred
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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator

Austria
4969 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2004 :  15:26:33  Show Profile  Visit OneWayMule's Homepage  Send OneWayMule an ICQ Message
Huw's service was just an example, some other Snitz members run hosting services too, you might want to check them out.

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sr_erick
Senior Member

USA
1318 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2004 :  16:08:21  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
Alfred, believe me when I say, IT'S A COMPLETE JOKE! I've been there, done that. Personally I don't use hosts that cost any less than $10 - $15 USD a month, it just doesn't pay. Thier a complete joke for what they say you get. It's terrible slow, and if you use any cpu cycles at all or bandwidth it's like they just totally delete your site. I know, it's happened to me. I used 2 gigs in a day once (had some videos up) with my "unlimited" bandwidth account I got when I signed up for some $60 a year and they up and deleted my website because "I was abusing thier policy and monopolizing the bandwidth". Not even as much as a notice. What a joke. Not to mention, the service was terrible, everything was way slow.

Don't focus on all the glitter and eye candy that some of these guys try throw at you, look for what you need, and make sure the people doing it are dedicated and care about you. If you think about it, there's possibly NO chance a host can survive making less than $4 a month off of you, and still give a good level of service, along with keeping to what they state they offer. It just can't happen, there is way too much cost involved.

Having a website is a hobby for most, a cheap one at that. How many people do you know that can do thier hobby with $10 a month?




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Edited by - sr_erick on 16 April 2004 16:11:41
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laser
Advanced Member

Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2004 :  16:48:46  Show Profile
Guys, since we're going around in circles a bit, I'll re-port my earlier advice :

"Talk to Gremlin"

Read my post here from a while ago : http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=44072

Go Kiwi !!, I have referred several sites to Gremlin, and you might be surprised about the number of names from this forum that uses his services. Service and support is always excellent. Starting from initial contact when he hand-crafted a hosting plan to suit the requirements listed in my thread.
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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 16 April 2004 :  18:46:50  Show Profile
Since this conversation is turning into a comparison of hosting offers I'm locking it. Alfred, start another thread if you want to pursue more on the differences from asp to php.

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