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Extra Sports
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USA
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Posted - 23 December 2003 :  10:37:06  Show Profile
Hey i would like to purchase 15k RPM scuzzy(SCSI) hard drive, but i don't how to plug them in because they come in 68 pins and 80 pins hard drisks. My computer came with IDE 40 pin hard disk, what do i need to buy to connect those SCISI Hard Disks???


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HuwR
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Posted - 23 December 2003 :  10:39:26  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
you will need to buy a scsii card
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Extra Sports
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Posted - 23 December 2003 :  16:15:58  Show Profile
how much does it cost approx. ???


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HuwR
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Posted - 23 December 2003 :  16:37:31  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage
about £20 or $35
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dayve
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USA
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Posted - 23 December 2003 :  21:33:12  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

about £20 or $35



that's a lowball price huh?

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seahorse
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USA
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Posted - 24 December 2003 :  00:33:13  Show Profile  Visit seahorse's Homepage
I thought that there wasn't much of a speed difference left between SCSI and IDE interfaces.

Why would you want a SCSI drive unless you're setting up a server?

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sr_erick
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USA
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Posted - 24 December 2003 :  04:59:24  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
I'd take a fast drive over a faster CPU any day of the week in a personal computer. My striped 7200 RPM 8 meg cache IDE drives do a very nice job keeping up. It is a considerable speed increase.




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Extra Sports
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USA
644 Posts

Posted - 24 December 2003 :  14:14:59  Show Profile
Listen uhmm,
If SCSI Hard Disk spins at 10,000RPM, how can 7200RPM hard drive be faster for home?? That don't make sense... I also heard that SCSI ismroe buggier but its alot faster... So answer please with some common thinking..


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dayve
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Posted - 24 December 2003 :  17:57:21  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
http://hardware.devchannel.org/hardwarechannel/03/10/20/1953249.shtml

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 24 December 2003 :  18:57:43  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
SCSI is also more expensive long term. You can buy 10k RPM IDE Drives as well now.

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Extra Sports
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USA
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Posted - 25 December 2003 :  01:17:27  Show Profile
Hey Gremlin, where are those 10K rpm IDE drives for sale? All I've seen so far is SCSI 10-15K rpm and IDE from 5400 to 7200 RPM.

Thanks alot everyone for help!


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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 25 December 2003 :  08:22:07  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
http://www.maximumpc.com/features/feature_2003-03-17.html

To be honest an ATA/133 7200 RPM drive with 8MB Cache performs pretty darn well anyway the PCI bus is limited in what it can handle with most of the newer drives now being able to push in excess of 100MB per second of data out (32bit PCI @ 33.3Mhz is ~132MB per second). In thoery, in a perfect world an ATA/133 Drive assuming the interface is on the PCI bus will max out the PCI Bus as ATA/133 = 133MB per second, the same as the PCI bus basically.

Of course your average consumers usage of a PC rarely sees the need for sustained data transfer at those rates anyway unless doing disk intensive tasks like video editing. You can always RAID0 two cheaper drives as well to achieve excellant performance (though if you loose one drive in the array and your screwed)

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Edited by - Gremlin on 25 December 2003 08:33:20
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sr_erick
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Posted - 26 December 2003 :  11:58:04  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by Gremlin


Of course your average consumers usage of a PC rarely sees the need for sustained data transfer at those rates anyway unless doing disk intensive tasks like video editing. You can always RAID0 two cheaper drives as well to achieve excellant performance (though if you loose one drive in the array and your screwed)



I don't see it as being screwed if you lose one drive. Having a setup of two smaller drives in a raid 0 configuration is the same chance you'd be taking if having a single drive of the same size as the two smaller ones combined. You lose the drive, you lose everything.




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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 26 December 2003 :  20:07:51  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
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You lose the drive, you lose everything.
Exactly, your screwed right ! Same diff. Either way you loose the total data in the array or in a non-array the contents of the drive.

At least with a single drive some conventional methods of data retrieval may get the data back, its a lot harder in a Raid array becuase the data is striped over multiple drives meaning you can't just try and recover data from one of them.

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