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Dave.
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 Posted - 15 December 2003 : 17:30:52
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Originally posted by HuwR
here, here 
Though I would disagree that you need a 64Mb graphics card for XP, but definately, any windows version you should consider 256Mb as a minimum for your ram, even for windows 98. The improvements on performance that adequate ram makes are huge.
Hmm. 64 for games. You could get by with a 16MB (If it's a good card.) |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 December 2003 : 17:44:45
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Hmm. 64 for games. You could get by with a 16MB (If it's a good card.)
Agreed, for games I would go for 64Mb, 32 at a push, but for XP itself you only need a 16Mb |
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Faizan
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 December 2003 : 19:19:18
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...for XP itself you only need a 16Mb
Wrong! XP does not start insallation if you do not have a minimum of 64MB. My old computer was really old, and it had 32MB of RAM, and whenever I started XP Installation, it always gave me an error saying "You need atleast 64MB of RAM for XP Installation to run"
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Nathan
Help Moderator
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Posted - 15 December 2003 : 19:28:30
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There are things you can do to trick Windows to install on a system thats below the 'required' spec.
Win2K ran quite happily on my AMD486 once I tricked it into installing. |
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xx ENIGMA xx
Junior Member
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Posted - 15 December 2003 : 19:31:17
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Originally posted by Faizan
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...for XP itself you only need a 16Mb
Wrong! XP does not start insallation if you do not have a minimum of 64MB. My old computer was really old, and it had 32MB of RAM, and whenever I started XP Installation, it always gave me an error saying "You need atleast 64MB of RAM for XP Installation to run"
I agree, XP Pro and most likely XP Home checks RAM during the
install process and will back out if not enough exists 
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20584 Posts |
Posted - 15 December 2003 : 19:50:07
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Originally posted by Faizan
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...for XP itself you only need a 16Mb
Wrong! XP does not start insallation if you do not have a minimum of 64MB. My old computer was really old, and it had 32MB of RAM, and whenever I started XP Installation, it always gave me an error saying "You need atleast 64MB of RAM for XP Installation to run"
we are talking about graphics ram here, so are perfectly correct |
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Doug G
Support Moderator
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Posted - 16 December 2003 : 00:21:44
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Originally posted by HuwR
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Originally posted by Faizan
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...for XP itself you only need a 16Mb
Wrong! XP does not start insallation if you do not have a minimum of 64MB. My old computer was really old, and it had 32MB of RAM, and whenever I started XP Installation, it always gave me an error saying "You need atleast 64MB of RAM for XP Installation to run"
we are talking about graphics ram here, so are perfectly correct
Absolutely!
For system RAM, XP Home has 64mb as the minimum RAM spec while XP Pro has 128mb minimum.
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RocketWeb
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 16 December 2003 : 00:49:15
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Originally posted by HuwR
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Originally posted by Mr Pink
I was thinking of upgrading my Win95 to 98... Not sure what to to now.
upgrade to XP
Make that XP "Pro" if you can afford the extra cost. As usual, MS in their infinite wisdom - no make that greediness - removed the PWS from XP home. I found this out the hard way when purchasing a new PC with XP home installed. Went to work on a Snitz based site of mine and <sigh> found out that PWS was not in XP home. I have kept 98 SE on the old PC networked to the new XP machine so I can still use PWS and (pre)view .asp files.
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There are things you can do to trick Windows to install on a system thats below the 'required' spec.
Why would you want to? Windoze is sloooow enuff without shorting it the gobs of memory it needs.
BTW... I still find it humorous that NO version of Windoze (that I've ever used)- no matter what processor or how much memory - can truely "premptively multitask" like the C= Amiga of (1985) yore could on... ahem 256k of ram.
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zeth
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 December 2003 : 07:54:24
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Originally posted by Mr Pink
I was thinking of upgrading my Win95 to 98... Not sure what to to now.
Do still upgrade to 98. I upgraded my old laptop from 95SE to 98SE and saw huge improvement. Don't forget you will still have all the fixes until 2004, unlike with Win 95. I find Windows 95 virtually unusable these days. I wouldn't upgrade windows much beyond what your computer can bear.
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you should consider 256Mb as a minimum for your ram, even for windows 98
For a new computer yes, but to reuse an old machine I think 32MB is good enough for Win 98 IMO. If you have e.g. 128MB or more then you should start to consider Win 2000 or newer.
I will use Win98SE on my old laptop because that is its limit. Next time I put together a new desktop I will use Linux. |
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zeth
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 December 2003 : 07:59:38
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Originally posted by redbrad0
I agree with MS to stop support. They can not continue to train techs to support win98 when I believe alot of the bugs have been fixed in the new versions. They supported the software for 5 years.
For us on the 'bleeding' edge of computer use, 5 years seems a long time. However for less interested users, 5 years isn't a long time. Imagine if you had to throw out your iron, kettle, car, tv, video, DVD player, washing machine and everything else after 5 years. |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 December 2003 : 08:17:38
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Originally posted by zeth
However for less interested users, 5 years isn't a long time. Imagine if you had to throw out your iron, kettle, car, tv, video, DVD player, washing machine and everything else after 5 years.
uhm, actually consumer electrical goods only have to have to last 3 years, obviously most last a long time, but in general their designed life is no more than 5 years |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 16 December 2003 : 08:22:44
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any windows version you should consider 256Mb as a minimum for your ram, even for windows 98
As I recall Win98 will only use the first 128Mb of RAM though regardless of how much you put in there, or was that 95 ? I do remember some limitation and I'm sure it was 128MB. |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
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Posted - 16 December 2003 : 08:29:02
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| hmm I'll correct myself, apparantly 95 and 98 are both designed to address up too 2Gb. |
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RichardKinser
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Dave.
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 13 January 2004 : 14:37:45
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