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aecio
Junior Member

Brazil
120 Posts

Posted - 10 November 2003 :  22:36:32  Show Profile  Visit aecio's Homepage
Hello,

I don't know if this has been addressed. I have searched but not found any comments on this.

I have a forum with active moderation. All messages, topics or replies, must be approved. I have found that after a message is approved, the user can go back and edit it at will, saying whatever they want, and it is not resubmitted to approval! That is, I create a topic called "Nice Jokes". It's approved because of the nice jokes inside. Then, once approved, I go back and post dirty jokes. It is immediately published and undetected most of the time, unless a moderator finds it by chance.

Shouldn't edited topics or replies be resubmitted for moderator's approval?

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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 10 November 2003 :  23:01:00  Show Profile
not a bug, it just wasn't implemented that way. Only New posts are moderated. Existing/Edited posts are not.
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laser
Advanced Member

Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 10 November 2003 :  23:16:42  Show Profile
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It is immediately published and undetected most of the time, unless a moderator finds it by chance.


I see you angle, but to add what Richard says : any good moderator will use the Active Topics page, so the editted post should get picked up soon (depending on the frequency of your moderator visits)
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aecio
Junior Member

Brazil
120 Posts

Posted - 11 November 2003 :  00:22:00  Show Profile  Visit aecio's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by laser

quote:
It is immediately published and undetected most of the time, unless a moderator finds it by chance.


I see you angle, but to add what Richard says : any good moderator will use the Active Topics page, so the editted post should get picked up soon (depending on the frequency of your moderator visits)



I see your point. But in a forum with hundreds of posts every day it's just going to add to the work of the moderators: moderate and check up on already-moderated topics. This will demand more manpower. Whereas it could be simpler if when a person edits an already approved post, it's status just returns to "subject to approval" (however that is done, I didn't look into the code yet). Therefore, the moderator would get it back in his to-do list of posts to moderate and not worry about "patroling".

Or else, they will have to "patrol" all forums and all posts looking for such a loophole.

Would this "change" be difficult to implement? I can look into it if you point me in the right direction. I'm sure others would appreciate it (or not?)

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laser
Advanced Member

Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 11 November 2003 :  00:33:59  Show Profile
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Would this "change" be difficult to implement? I can look into it if you point me in the right direction. I'm sure others would appreciate it (or not?)

I'm guessing you'd need to reset the value of R_STATUS to something, but I haven't used it before.
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aecio
Junior Member

Brazil
120 Posts

Posted - 11 November 2003 :  09:09:10  Show Profile  Visit aecio's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by laser
I'm guessing you'd need to reset the value of R_STATUS to something, but I haven't used it before.



If it's just that, it would be simple to do when the post/reply is updated.

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laser
Advanced Member

Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 11 November 2003 :  15:16:52  Show Profile
IF it is, then it would be a relatively simple thing to do.
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aecio
Junior Member

Brazil
120 Posts

Posted - 11 November 2003 :  16:17:11  Show Profile  Visit aecio's Homepage
Okay, I see R_STATUS and T_STATUS being set to one or it's original DB value in the code.

So here's my opinion:
When the method is EDIT or EDIT_TOPIC, the code already tests to see if it's a locked or archived topic. If not, it sets the status to 1. At this point, the new code would test to see if moderation is active and if so, set the respective STATUS to 2. If not, leave it at 1.

What do you think, laser?

Richard, am I right???

Anyone care to comment?

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Tracy Della Vecchia
Starting Member

USA
11 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2004 :  10:03:23  Show Profile  Visit Tracy Della Vecchia's Homepage
We need to implement a feature that sends all edited posts back to unmoderated status. Has anyone been successful at doing this? Thanks for any input.

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altisdesign
Junior Member

United Kingdom
357 Posts

Posted - 07 October 2004 :  12:05:23  Show Profile
Not withstanding the code issues, for the time between when the post is edited and it is remoderated the thread will not make sense if a reply is just randomly missing. Something to bear in mind perhaps?

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Tracy Della Vecchia
Starting Member

USA
11 Posts

Posted - 09 October 2004 :  23:06:28  Show Profile  Visit Tracy Della Vecchia's Homepage
Excellent thought Altis...thank you.

We're thinking perhaps take away the ability to edit AFTER the post is approved? Do you think that's more possible? Would the Administrators and the Moderators still have the ability to edit? Is there a plugin or addon for that do you suppose?

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altisdesign
Junior Member

United Kingdom
357 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2004 :  07:47:31  Show Profile
http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=39699&SearchTerms=edit

There is this mod by GauravBhabu. I'm not sure if it is compatible with 3.4.05 but I would give it a go and if you experience problems post in the Mod Implementation forum. My guess is it was for 3.4.03 [someone please correct me if I am wrong], and the number of changes between .03 and .05 are minimal so it may be ok.

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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2004 :  16:35:38  Show Profile
I think the whole point of having moderators is for them to moderate the topics and replies. And to also have a feature that allows users to alert the moderators of a particular post.

If the user keeps posting things that is against your forum policy, give him/her a warning and then lock thier account if they continue.

Having edited posts being moderated isn't a fool proof plan to keep a moderated forum, protected from unwanted posts.

Then again, removing the edit post option from a moderated forum, isn't a bad idea.

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PeeWee.Inc
Senior Member

United Kingdom
1893 Posts

Posted - 10 October 2004 :  17:10:48  Show Profile  Visit PeeWee.Inc's Homepage
quote:

Then again, removing the edit post option from a moderated forum, isn't a bad idea.



I think thats the way the DEV team should go.
If Modeation is on, no edit option for users. Mods and Admins should keep it tho

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