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Ryan
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USA
858 Posts

Posted - 23 September 2003 :  21:54:30  Show Profile  Visit Ryan's Homepage
I admit that I rank close to worst ASP coder out there and I am very willing to learn more. I was wondering how you great MOD creators have so succesfully learned ASP. Did you take a tutorial on the internet? Do you recommend a site? Please let me know...

The Poultry Link - "Serving the best of the fancy with the best of the web"
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dayve
Forum Moderator

USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 23 September 2003 :  23:43:09  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
I basically looked at other people's code, especially Snitz and just disected the heck out of it to the point where I understood what was going on inside and out. I also visited sites like http://www.devguru.com and read about every ASP/ADO object. I've been programming for some time now although I would not consider myself a hardcore programmer. However, my point being that once you understand logic concepts of a programming language, the rest come fairly simple.

For web development, I think it is crucial that you understand HTML COMPLETELY before trying to integrate higher level javascript/vbscript coding into it.

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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 24 September 2003 :  00:06:03  Show Profile
Set up an asp web server locally using PWS or IIS, you can get a free one for any version of Windows except XP Home (or Windows 3.1 and earlier :). Mess around. Read the docs. Download some asp apps like snitz & others & spend the time to understand how the code works. Learn your way around the msdn library.

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big9erfan
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540 Posts

Posted - 24 September 2003 :  01:23:17  Show Profile
Teach yourself ASP in 21 days by the guys at http://www.4guysfromrolla.com . It's a really good book for someone looking to learn ( though previous programming experience is VERY helpful ).

Other than that, look at code, mod it yourself, add comments and tinker with it some more!


This account was hacked into by Image, a very honest guy as you all can see! Stealing people's passwords is his pasttime.
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seahorse
Senior Member

USA
1075 Posts

Posted - 24 September 2003 :  02:51:32  Show Profile  Visit seahorse's Homepage
I started out with Beginning Active Server Pages 3.0 from Wrox.

I'm not very far advanced, but I'm also not in a hurry and am content to pick up things slowly. Still haven't really made much progress on Beginning ASP.net

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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator

Austria
4969 Posts

Posted - 24 September 2003 :  04:00:10  Show Profile  Visit OneWayMule's Homepage  Send OneWayMule an ICQ Message
For me, everything ASP-related started with Snitz (with adding MODs actually).
I have done a lot of MODs that I never released to the public, but it helped to learn how to interact/use the Snitz code.
I agree with dayve, it's very important to have a decent HTML knowledge before starting creating dynamic pages (no matter if it's ASP, PHP, CFM or whatever).

Another thing that helps alot is getting a (online) reference of all objects/functions, so if you find anything you don't understand why or what it does, you can quickly get some info.

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Learn your way around the msdn library.

I always found the structure MSDN library too confusing, it always took me ages to the information I wanted...

My MODs:
Birthdays - Custom Policy - F.A.Q. Administration - Forum Rules - Guestbook
Links Manager - MyOwnGoogle - Profile Views - Search Log - WebSearch

Useful stuff:
Forum and MOD Installation - MOD Installation Guide - Snitz v3.4.05 Readme - Free ASP Hosts - Support Snitz

Edited by - OneWayMule on 24 September 2003 05:01:59
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Bookie
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USA
856 Posts

Posted - 24 September 2003 :  11:03:16  Show Profile  Visit Bookie's Homepage  Send Bookie an AOL message  Send Bookie a Yahoo! Message
I'm still in the process of learning ASP but here's basically how I've learned. I dream of the possibilities and come up with ideas and then search to figure out how to do it.

For example, recently I had to rename about 150 jpg pictures from an employee number to the first part of their e-mail address before the @. All that information is held in a database and I realized that you could do a lot with filesystemobject which I've never really learned before. So, I ventured out learning what I needed to about filesystemobject and about 30 minutes later I had all my pictures renamed.

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Ryan
Average Member

USA
858 Posts

Posted - 24 September 2003 :  11:31:31  Show Profile  Visit Ryan's Homepage
Thanks everyone.
Visit this site if you would like to see some of my coding skills. Most of that site was typed from scratch by me minus the comment form, javascript used to make chat room, articles section (which I will be doing sometime), and the forum (of course ). Let me know what you think.

The Poultry Link - "Serving the best of the fancy with the best of the web"
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DavidRhodes
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United Kingdom
1222 Posts

Posted - 24 September 2003 :  11:38:07  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by seahorse

I started out with Beginning Active Server Pages 3.0 from Wrox.



Me too, then the Proffesional edition, great book to check back over now and then

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Dave.
Senior Member

USA
1037 Posts

Posted - 24 September 2003 :  15:06:37  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by dayve

I basically looked at other people's code, especially Snitz and just disected the heck out of it to the point where I understood what was going on inside and out. I also visited sites like http://www.devguru.com and read about every ASP/ADO object. I've been programming for some time now although I would not consider myself a hardcore programmer. However, my point being that once you understand logic concepts of a programming language, the rest come fairly simple.

For web development, I think it is crucial that you understand HTML COMPLETELY before trying to integrate higher level javascript/vbscript coding into it.


I'm still not a really great ASP programmer, but I can do almost all of it relitively easy. My advice: Go to www.w3schools.com taKE THE asp TUTORIAL (AND html/xhtml IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEM WELL ALREADY), and install Snitz MODs...once you install enough, you'll begin to understand Snitz pretty well. I don't think there is muxh Snit code left that I don't understand :).
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Set up an asp web server locally using PWS or IIS, you can get a free one for any version of Windows except XP Home


If you have a Win2000 CD you can setup a Local server on XP Home....I could never get it to "Serve" but it ran great on http://localhost
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