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Roland
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Netherlands
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 Posted - 22 September 2003 : 12:42:18
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Today I got a CD-rom with knoppix 3.2 on it when I got a new PC magazine. I remember reading about it on these forums a while ago, but never downloaded it to give it a try (I don't like downloading those kinds of things).
Anyway, I just tried it on my computer here at home and was unpleasantly surprised by two things:
- no USB support... neither my mouse nor keyboard (both Logitech USB products) worked so I had to pull the plug on my computer and use the crappy PS2 keyboard & mouse that came with my PC
- no automatic network connection... I'm not too good with those kinds of things, especially when it's not Windows. But my network card wasn't recognized and the wizard wasn't helpful at all, so I couldn't go online with it, which was basically the only reason I'd use knoppix.
I have to say that it looks really nice and has made me decide to take an old PC to install SuSe 8.2 on to mess around with Linux a bit (perhaps try some PHP stuff too). |
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laser
Advanced Member
Australia
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Posted - 22 September 2003 : 16:57:15
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I haven't tried USB with Knoppix, but it detects my USB ports & PCMCIA ports properly, also the NIC so a few minutes after booting I was surfing the net with Kbrowser & Mozilla.
But if you only want PHP, can't you get that for Windows ?  or you can use the Knoppix boot disk to install Debian on your machine permanently, or (I think) make it dual-boot. |
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
9335 Posts |
Posted - 22 September 2003 : 19:14:32
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True, but without something like PHP to keep me on a Linux distro, I will give up rather fast, like I did last time ;)
As for USB being detected: I think it detected it, the mouse and keyboard just didn't work. It looked like they didn't get any power since when I turned the numlock on the light didn't go on either. |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 22 September 2003 : 21:25:36
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| I've been using Knoppix for some time now and USB ports work fine. I did however have to manually configure my NIC before I was able to browse the net, but it was rather simple to do that as well. It is nice to just pop in a bootable cd rom and have access to a boat load of appz running on a Linux Distro. |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
12217 Posts |
Posted - 23 September 2003 : 04:28:25
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Yep, I have Knoppix. I had actually installed on my computer as my second OS until I got Mandrake and Windows dual boot. After installing Mandrake and then not being able to boot up into any of my OS (because the MBR Master Boot Record got corrupted) I had to use knoppix to get things working again.
So it was a real life saver. |
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
9335 Posts |
Posted - 23 September 2003 : 04:41:05
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I thought USB would be supported, but as I said, neither my mouse nor keyboard worked. Maybe it's because they're plugged into USB2 ports instead of USB1?
Anyway, now I just found out I have a DVD-ROM that came with some computer magazine that contains lots of software, including one of the latest RedHat releases. I'm also expecting to get a copy of SuSe 8.2 Professional early next week.
Does anyone have any experience with these two distros? If so, which one do you think is better for a complete Linux newbie? According to some reviews I've read SuSe is a bit more friendly for people like me who have no experience with Linux... |
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
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Posted - 23 September 2003 : 04:57:21
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I have read Redhat is more friendly. Then again, I hear Mandrake is easy to use too. lol
If I were you, I would go with RedHat first. It has some software that will help you partition your harddrive in preparation to install linux on it. And it does it quite well.
I haven't tried SuSe, so I can't comment on it.  |
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
9335 Posts |
Posted - 23 September 2003 : 05:02:30
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I'll be using an old 550MHz Pentium 3 that we have standing around doing nothing. No other OS will be installed on it. That is, unless I get to take that PC home because then I'll install Win98SE on it so I'll also be able to use and old(er) version of IE to test sites with.
But, I know SuSe has an installer that'll also make partitions and prepare hard disks for Linux. I remember that from when I tried SuSe 7.x at one time and it wiped out one of my hard drives that contained a lot of work files... |
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OneWayMule
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Austria
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
12217 Posts |
Posted - 23 September 2003 : 05:07:15
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I guess the opinions on which one is more friendlier differs from each person. But from experience, Mandrake and RedHat are friendly. They take you by the hand when going through the installation. While on some distro's, you got to install it using the command line.
Like Knoppix for example, you have to use the command line if you want to install the OS from the CD to your hard drive. |
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Rasco
Advanced Member
Germany
3192 Posts |
Posted - 23 September 2003 : 06:24:21
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| Just read, that Knoppix 3.3 has been released but when going to their site, it`s closed due some protest against the decision of the European Parliament about software patents which should be announced in the next days. |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 23 September 2003 : 06:53:38
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| Both Mandrake 9.1 and RedHat 9 are pretty good, Mandrake imo is the better distro for "multimedia" as Redhat has removed things such as MP3 Codecs from their disto. |
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
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Posted - 23 September 2003 : 08:52:20
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Originally posted by Rasco
Just read, that Knoppix 3.3 has been released but when going to their site, it`s closed due some protest against the decision of the European Parliament about software patents which should be announced in the next days.
You should still be able to access thier site. They usually have a link to go to thier site from thier protest page. |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Doug G
Support Moderator
USA
6493 Posts |
Posted - 23 September 2003 : 13:45:34
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RedHat's installer is pretty simple these days. Answer a few basic prompts and have coffee, swap a couple cd's when prompted, then reboot.
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