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seven
Senior Member

USA
1037 Posts

Posted - 20 September 2003 :  07:35:03  Show Profile  Visit seven's Homepage
How many other people are annoyed with the concept of Verisign's new smartfinder feature?

For those who don't know what it is, when you type a .com or .net domain name into your browser address bar that is not yet registered it will direct you to a Verisign website listing alternate suggested domains for you.
Here's the lawsuit in the works: http://search.netster.com/about/lawsuit.asp


Edited by - seven on 03 October 2003 17:01:24

The Impact
Junior Member

Australia
398 Posts

Posted - 20 September 2003 :  08:43:28  Show Profile
I did notice this, has it taken over the MSN search page ?

Shows my website so I don't have a problem with it !
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 20 September 2003 :  09:43:59  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
I think its down right rude the tactics verisign have used.

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weeweeslap
Senior Member

USA
1077 Posts

Posted - 20 September 2003 :  12:10:11  Show Profile  Visit weeweeslap's Homepage  Send weeweeslap an AOL message  Send weeweeslap a Yahoo! Message
http://www.whois.sc/verisign-dns/
we should sign the petition
I really hate verisign doing that, made me think the domain names I wanted to buy were taken when in fact they weren't

coaster crazy
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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 20 September 2003 :  14:23:02  Show Profile
Verisign is a poor excuse for a business. They are somewhere in the my top 5 worst companies list. I think everyone should move any Verisign domains to a different registrar.

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sr_erick
Senior Member

USA
1318 Posts

Posted - 20 September 2003 :  15:02:17  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
I hate verisign as well.




Erick
Snowmobile Fanatics

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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 20 September 2003 :  19:40:18  Show Profile
ICANN posted an announcement about this:

http://icann.org/announcements/advisory-19sep03.htm

Guess we will soon see just how effective ICANN is.
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 20 September 2003 :  21:58:20  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Like most things, it will probably come down to who hires the most expensive lawyers :(

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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 21 September 2003 :  06:09:30  Show Profile
How can a company not care about getting a bad name? Sure, they already had a bad name, but this is making it worse.
The newcomers to domain registration won't know about verisign's reputation, but since they tend to ask around about where to register domains and all, they should hear from the experienced people that they shouldn't go with verisign. I hope word of mouth will be able to reduce their business far enough for them to become more "respectable"
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seven
Senior Member

USA
1037 Posts

Posted - 21 September 2003 :  12:07:07  Show Profile  Visit seven's Homepage
I was under the impression Verisign got a cut of domain registrations fees no matter who you registered .com or .net domain names through.


quote:
Originally posted by Doug G

Verisign is a poor excuse for a business. They are somewhere in the my top 5 worst companies list. I think everyone should move any Verisign domains to a different registrar.



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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 21 September 2003 :  15:05:30  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by seven

I was under the impression Verisign got a cut of domain registrations fees no matter who you registered .com or .net domain names through.


quote:
Originally posted by Doug G

Verisign is a poor excuse for a business. They are somewhere in the my top 5 worst companies list. I think everyone should move any Verisign domains to a different registrar.





They may, but if so it's a much smaller cut than if they provide the registration themselves. Anything to lower the Verisign revenue stream :)


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Roland
Advanced Member

Netherlands
9335 Posts

Posted - 25 September 2003 :  03:32:02  Show Profile
I received this email from GoDaddy


Subject: Customer Alert: Go Daddy Sues VeriSign
Body:
Dear Valued Go Daddy Customer,

Have you ever needed to ask for directions while you were driving? Let's say you stopped to ask a trusted authority, like a police officer.

You'd expect that officer to be honest, right? Wouldn't you expect him or her to provide you a safe, direct route to where you needed to go? I sure would.

But what if that officer instead misdirected you to a shopping mall? A shopping mall, it turns out, that actually paid the officer for every sale that resulted?

That would be an abuse of the police officer's authority. It would be capitalizing on your misfortune.

We believe that's what VeriSign is doing with its "Site Finder" marketing scheme. We believe that it is once again abusing the power to oversee all .com and .net domains it was granted by the U.S. government.

Go Daddy is now suing in federal court to stop them.

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HERE'S HOW VERISIGN'S SCHEME CAN AFFECT YOU:
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+ It will MISDIRECT YOU FROM YOUR INTENDED DESTINATION and even MISLEAD YOU ABOUT ITS STATUS.
If you type any .com or .net address into your browser that isn't already registered, VeriSign hijacks you -- and sends you to an advertising page that they own. This can occur even when you type in a site that is registered, but is not displaying temporarily. Used to be, if you made a mistake in typing an address -- which is the usual reason for not finding a site -- you would see either a "404" error page, or a help page that your browser would generate. Now though, VeriSign has hijacked this entire process and puts up a paid-advertising page, the so-called Site Finder.

+ It will COST YOU MONEY.
Advertisers pay VeriSign to position links to their services that look similar to the misspelled address. And that means you may well find your way to a competitor, rather than to your intended destination. Simply navigating on the Internet will be more frustrating and more expensive for consumers. Companies will be forced to purchase every imaginable misspelling of their names to prevent their customers from being hijacked by Site Finder, and the cost will be passed on to you. To VeriSign, of course, these forced domain registrations just mean more revenue.

+ It will mean MORE SPAM HEADED FOR YOUR INBOX.
Internet Service Providers (ISPs) across the globe have committed valuable time and resources to developing systems that prevent spam from reaching your mailbox. One of the more successful methods checks to see whether the domain name of the inbound email resolves to an actual Web site. If it doesn't, that means the domain is fake, so your ISP doesn't let it through. Now, though, spammers can use any phony domains they want, because all fake domains will "resolve" to the Site Finder page! Go Daddy's spam filter, Spam Xploder(TM), will not be affected because it uses Bayesian filtering technology, instead of relying on the DNS servers, to determine if email is spam or not.

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We at Go Daddy feel that Site Finder amounts to an abuse; that VeriSign is misusing its registry position to gain unfair advantage over the entire Internet community. And as we did in 2002, when we sued VeriSign over its renewal scam, we're determined to stop it.

We're asking a Federal judge to issue a preliminary injunction that will halt this. If you feel, as we do, that VeriSign is once again inappropriately capitalizing on its position of authority, we urge you to email VeriSign (practices@verisign.com) and ICANN (comments@icann.org) and let them know.

Thank you for your attention and support on this matter. You can review our press release and legal complaint here https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/pressreleases/verisign_suit.asp

As always, thanks for being a Go Daddy customer.

Sincerely,
Bob Parsons
President
GoDaddy.com
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 25 September 2003 :  11:35:32  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
heh http://www.dropdeadverisign.com/

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sr_erick
Senior Member

USA
1318 Posts

Posted - 25 September 2003 :  13:59:01  Show Profile  Visit sr_erick's Homepage  Send sr_erick a Yahoo! Message
Lol, someone actually registered it. I was reading a news article where the authro gave this site as an example of what to type in "unless someone has registered it".




Erick
Snowmobile Fanatics

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P3TER
Starting Member

32 Posts

Posted - 30 September 2003 :  16:03:00  Show Profile
This is a great "get your own back" program:
http://freestuff.grok.co.uk/rndweb/

It is a small program that sits in your taskbar, and requests random domain names. If it finds a certain text string in the front page, it can log the page.

Useful for... umm no idea, but think of the load it must put on VeriSigns Site Finder service................ (u getting this..?!)

Oh, I managed to register http://www.veri-sign.com too, and informed Verisign customer support that it was as a 'service to lost surfers'

Well, since you have all got forums of your own, how about everyone publicises the "Random Website Scanner" utility. Remember, we own the internet, not Verisign!
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silent_frosty
Junior Member

USA
178 Posts

Posted - 30 September 2003 :  19:17:16  Show Profile  Send silent_frosty an ICQ Message  Send silent_frosty a Yahoo! Message
Nice veri-sign (VerySly) site you got there . That random link generator that you linked us to is providing some good entertainment for me right now

Life is a waste of time. Time is a waste of life. So get wasted all of the time and have the time of your life.

Edited by - silent_frosty on 30 September 2003 19:18:02
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