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work mule
Senior Member

USA
1358 Posts

Posted - 06 August 2003 :  16:00:05  Show Profile
Read about this in the paper. I can't believe private ATM's aren't regulated to some degree.

Criminals Focus on Weak Link in Banking: A.T.M. Network
link to article

To tap into this electronic network, Mr. Frljuckic did not have to produce so much as a valid driver's license. After buying these machines the kind commonly found in convenience stores, delicatessens and other retail outlets he and his associates installed devices that captured, or "skimmed," personal bank account information from at least 21,000 people, prosecutors say. They used that information in 2001 and early 2002 to make fake A.T.M. cards, then stole at least $3.5 million, mostly from A.T.M.'s in New York City, according to the latest federal charges filed about two months ago in Manhattan.


Use Private ATMs At Your Own Risk
http://www.nbc10.com/consumeralertarchive/2188539/detail.html

JULY 2003 - FRAUD ALERTS
http://www.nycstreetsmarts.com/protect.htm

Gangsters from Russia rip off Canadians with debit card scam that sucks up $1.2 million from innocent consumers
http://www.canadiancreditcenter.com/CCC-media-views2.htm

Independently owned and operated ATMs can be bought from several different companies in Canada for $8,500 to $12,000.

'Lebanese Loop' latest ATM scam
http://www.jsonline.com/dd/destnat/mar03/123723.asp

Look out, travelers. The latest bank card scam is the Lebanese Loop, according to police warnings on the Internet. Thieves put a thin, clear plastic sleeve into the ATM slot. The machine cannot read the card, so it keeps asking you to register your PIN. Meanwhile someone watches to learn the PIN while you try to get the ATM to respond. After you finally give up, the thieves return, pull out the plastic sleeve with the card and drain the account. So, before putting your card into an ATM, run your finger over the slot. The sleeve usually has a couple of prongs.

Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 06 August 2003 :  20:27:51  Show Profile
This is worrisome but not really new. Some years ago some enterprising thieves set up a phony kiosk in a shopping mall, put an "out of order" sign on the real atm and captured hundreds of account #'s/pin's before closing up their shop.

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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 07 August 2003 :  02:53:41  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Would you believe theres even been cases of people just putting a cardboard box on an ATM with an accompanying out of order sign that said something along the lines of "machine out of order, please place use cardboad box for deposits" .. and people did !

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work mule
Senior Member

USA
1358 Posts

Posted - 07 August 2003 :  13:02:00  Show Profile
No way!

I can't believe people would be so naive to leave deposits in a cardboard box. I guess they're too much in a rush or something.

I just couldn't believe the story I read in the paper. Basically anyone can buy an ATM machine. All you have to do is stock it with cash and have a bank account for the other bank to send the fees and reimbursement to and that's pretty much it. According to the article, this was used by people for money laundering. Stock it with "bad" cash and when people withdraw money, they get the "bad" cash, while their bank deposits "good" money in the owner's account.

The article also said that banks aren't likely to report this type of thing because they don't want to shake consumer confidence in ATMs. They make a lot of money from the fees while requiring less tellers.

Interesting.
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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 07 August 2003 :  13:44:09  Show Profile
Some years back, someone took a front loader and forcefully removed an ATM from a building here at about 3am and drove off with it.

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davemaxwell
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USA
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Posted - 07 August 2003 :  14:10:32  Show Profile  Visit davemaxwell's Homepage  Send davemaxwell an AOL message  Send davemaxwell an ICQ Message  Send davemaxwell a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by Doug G

Some years back, someone took a front loader and forcefully removed an ATM from a building here at about 3am and drove off with it.



They tried to do something similar around here, but used a regular truck with some chain. Ripped the back of the truck off. They drove off, but left the back of the truck! Police just traced the license plate (yes they used their own truck for this) and arrested the guy. He was shocked they found him.....gotta love the redneck hillbillies around here

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stoniek
Starting Member

United Kingdom
14 Posts

Posted - 07 August 2003 :  16:26:44  Show Profile  Visit stoniek's Homepage
One of the biggest scams happening around my neck of the woods is that a couple of guys will watch you tap in your pin number and then as you are waiting for your card to be returned they will drop a note on the floor and one of them will tell you that you have dropped some money. As you bend down to pick up the note your card appears from the ATM the other leans over and snatches your card. Already having the number they are able to scim quite a bit from your account before you have time to cancel it.
If they time it right most people are lead to believe that their card is stuck in the machine cos they didn't see it get taken.

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PeeWee.Inc
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United Kingdom
1893 Posts

Posted - 07 August 2003 :  16:50:12  Show Profile  Visit PeeWee.Inc's Homepage
This was on "The Bill" some years ago.

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