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sacred
Junior Member
USA
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 Posted - 03 August 2003 : 17:24:35
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Out of curosity what all do you program for on browser end? I went to this site to look up stats
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
I look at it very relatively in respects to the stats. But am considering in dropping testing with netscape 4.7, ie 4.0. How old are those browsers like 7 years old (I remember using them in the summer of 1996, when I worked for a dot com company?
Curious as to your opinions of what is reasonable browsers to code to?
Also what you think with netscape? Gone? AOL sometime ago signed a 7 year deal with Microsoft to keep using their browser.
Yours in deepest gratitude,
Sacred
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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator
Austria
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D3mon
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1685 Posts |
Posted - 03 August 2003 : 18:00:52
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| I test with Netscape Navigator 4.7, Opera 7.11, Mozilla and Netscape 7. Testing with the older Netscape browser is just to make sure it's still clean and usable (as I disable the CSS). Validated code means I hardly ever have any cross-browser problems these days. |
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader
Australia
2085 Posts |
Posted - 04 August 2003 : 17:47:05
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I test for Nutscrape (sorry Netscape) 4.7.4 and above & Internet Exploitation (sorry Explorer) 4.0 and above. I have quite a few users that still use these browsers & MAC IE 5.
I feel we should still cater for at least these minority as they may just be someone who would complain the most. Well thats what I get.
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20595 Posts |
Posted - 04 August 2003 : 18:32:56
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Originally posted by OneWayMule
Since I use IE6, I'm viewing anything I create with IE6 only, but after I'm almost done, I try the pages/site with the latest versions of Mozilla, Opera and Netscape.
I see no reason to make a site work for old browsers like Netscape 4.7.
I do the same and would agree that 4.7 is not worth the effort, even the latest netscape now that AOL are dropping it will not last very long, but it is a good idea to get it working in mozilla and especially opera as the latest versions are very good and gaining more support and popularity.
you may also want to consider mobile users, as they are increasingly becoming popular as mobile web devices. |
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OneWayMule
Dev. Team Member & Support Moderator
Austria
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 05 August 2003 : 00:36:29
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| I cross browser code for the popular 3 which to me is NS, IE and OP. I also code for the current version and 1 generation back. |
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Posted - 05 August 2003 : 01:58:02
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Originally posted by OneWayMule
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you may also want to consider mobile users, as they are increasingly becoming popular as mobile web devices.
What are the best ways to check how mobile users see my site?
try here: http://www.wapsilon.com/ |
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wii
Free ASP Hosts Moderator
Denmark
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Posted - 05 August 2003 : 02:47:09
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Me too - just to make sure the code is clean. I don´t have cross-browser problems either.
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Originally posted by D3mon
I test with Netscape Navigator 4.7, Opera 7.11, Mozilla and Netscape 7. Testing with the older Netscape browser is just to make sure it's still clean and usable (as I disable the CSS). Validated code means I hardly ever have any cross-browser problems these days.
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 05 August 2003 : 19:59:38
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sacred
Junior Member
USA
153 Posts |
Posted - 05 August 2003 : 21:20:46
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Thank you all for taking part and letting me know your practices. I am finding in Netscape 4.7 that the use of classes with onMouseOuts and so forth is not really working well. The way it inherits CSS classes and inline styles is becoming a pain and you can not change the class names when rolling over things. Like this.className=... Where as the newer versions are able to use this and their inheriting is much much better.
I am also thinking about dropping opera. Before I use to code for netscape and ie only. However, lately I have been checking with opera as well. And I can refresh the opera page X times and it will render it x different ways the page is seen. Something I never seen. I did simple HTML and ASP pages before. But know I am doing some complicated frames, CSS and DOM programming. It also gives me a error saying server to busy. Which I know is a lie cause I am running it on my local webserver. And the other browsers do not get the error. None of the other browsers have the trouble opera is having rendering consistant page look, even Netscape 4.7.
Thanks so much for your advice. I think I will continue to check with the old netscape on layout and errors in the broadest sense. But will set aims for the latest browser version and one browser version back.
Never seen a mobile web page. But will look into it.
Again many thanks!
Sacred
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borge
Junior Member
Norway
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Posted - 07 August 2003 : 12:54:19
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Originally posted by dayve
I'm kind of surprised that anyone feels the need to support Netscape 4.x
That is what I thought too, and when I recently installed the site integration mod I did not bother testing with Netscape 4.x - the response was immediate, a few very frustrated users, now all they got was the background color. I suggested it was time to upgrade to e newer browser, but some of those guys are really determined to hang on to their old software: "As far as my 4.7 browser goes, it worked quite well in the past. In fact, it works well for most operations" another member writes: "I'm using Netscape 4.75, which has worked fine until July". - And it seams like some of these guys will rather loose some of their cyber friends than the good old NS 4.x |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 07 August 2003 : 16:37:23
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| ^^^ I am one that would be easily willing to lose online friends using Netscape 4.x, it's just not worth the effort. |
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VodkaFish
Average Member
USA
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Posted - 07 August 2003 : 21:06:53
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| I program for whoever my potential audience is. |
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