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ebblerking
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Germany
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Posted - 03 April 2003 :  02:55:52  Show Profile  Visit ebblerking's Homepage  Send ebblerking an ICQ Message
Hi there,
i'm running two Snitz forums on my Server. one is for testing purposes only and has a Access Backend.
Now, that I want to go into production, I installed a second instance of Snitz on my server under another Folder. This forum uses SQL Server 2000 db. Both forums are set to NT Authentication. The Testing platform works well, but the production environment won't let me in. One funny thing though is: When i log onto the test-forum an then go to the production-forum, it will grant access to the forum with the right userid. What's going wrong here....? I definately DO need NT Authentication there's no alternative for me

Nikkol
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USA
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Posted - 03 April 2003 :  07:45:50  Show Profile
Have you turned off anonymous access on the production folder?

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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
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Posted - 03 April 2003 :  11:52:00  Show Profile
quote:
The Testing platform works well, but the production environment won't let me in.
What do you mean it won't let you in?

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ebblerking
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Germany
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Posted - 04 April 2003 :  07:51:00  Show Profile  Visit ebblerking's Homepage  Send ebblerking an ICQ Message
@Nikkol: Anonymous Access is turned on.

@Davio: If you're trying to access the forum, it will redirect you to the login site. That is okay for me, but if you're trying to log in, it says "Login and/or password wrong!". The same goes for the "admin_login.asp". I am completly locked out, until I'll go to the testforum and then back to the production platform. This is so weird.

I have doublechecked the configuration a hundred times and it is exactly the same (exept from some minor changes, that have no affect on this)...

Edited by - ebblerking on 04 April 2003 07:51:51
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Nikkol
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USA
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Posted - 04 April 2003 :  09:02:33  Show Profile
don't you want to turn anonymous off if you are using NT authentication?

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ebblerking
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Germany
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Posted - 04 April 2003 :  09:51:12  Show Profile  Visit ebblerking's Homepage  Send ebblerking an ICQ Message
no, i don't think so.
The forum is on an internal website and i dont want anonymous access to the forum. With NT-Auth everybody can be identified by his Login. That is the main argument for NT-Auth...
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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
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Posted - 04 April 2003 :  11:05:24  Show Profile
Then how did you turn on NT Authorization without turning off Anonymous Access??

IIS checks to see if anonymous access is turned, then allows any user access to the site. If anonymous access is turned off, it uses the next level of authentication, which is Basic Authentication (if turned on). If Basic Authentication is not turned on, it uses the windows file system permissions to request a username and password. Which is what NT Authorization is. But NT Authorization cannot work with Anonymous Access being On.

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ebblerking
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Germany
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Posted - 04 April 2003 :  12:55:06  Show Profile  Visit ebblerking's Homepage  Send ebblerking an ICQ Message
I'm afraid it does....???
"everyone" User has access to both shares. And anonymous access is definately _NOT_ turned off. I doublecheked that. Both shares are configured equally, the only difference between them is the database backend.

To avoid misunderstandings:
The thing is NOT that i want to prohibit other Users from logging onto the forum, but i want to log their windows accounts, so that they cannot have a "anonymous" Nickname.
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
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Posted - 04 April 2003 :  13:58:34  Show Profile
you need to UNCHECK anonymous access in IIS for NT auth to work. If it is checked, then your web page will assume the person visiting the page is the IUSR_Machinename account and will not force the person to log in.

Again, UNCHECK anonymous access.

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Davio
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Jamaica
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Posted - 04 April 2003 :  22:23:53  Show Profile
quote:
The thing is NOT that i want to prohibit other Users from logging onto the forum, but i want to log their windows accounts, so that they cannot have a "anonymous" Nickname.
The forum cannot use the Windows account of the user when anonymous access is ON.

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geoffr
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Posted - 01 May 2003 :  12:53:40  Show Profile
I think you guys are getting confused with Anonymous access terms. Anonymous access is set in two different places to accomplish two seperate thins. Anonymous access on the forum is specifically for allowing anyone access to the site. This is seperate from anonymous access in IIS.

To use the NT account in the forum, you need to have anonymous access unchecked in both places. Uncheck the Anonymous box in IIS along with basic authentication. Leave Integrated windows/NT Authentication as the only one checked.

Then in the admin area, turn off anonymous authentication.

Hope this helps.

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