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Dave.
Senior Member

USA
1037 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  13:54:39  Show Profile
i want to host my forums on my home computer with DSL internet. i need access right? i will be running windows 2000 professional, or xp prefessional. should i use SQL, what is the cheapest way to do thid, or the best way? why?

Edited by - ruirib on 20 December 2002 19:52:12

Bookie
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USA
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Posted - 20 December 2002 :  14:51:52  Show Profile  Visit Bookie's Homepage  Send Bookie an AOL message  Send Bookie a Yahoo! Message
I don't think you necessarily need Access. I'm pretty sure you can use Access without having it installed. As far as free goes, you could always use MySQL. It's fairly simple to install on a Windows machine.

If you're worried about administering your Access db without Access, just download the free Table Editor and load that up on your server and access it via a browser.

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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
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Posted - 20 December 2002 :  15:35:00  Show Profile
Bookie is correct, you don't need Access, but you'll be happier if you have it if you are using an Access database. :)

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dayve
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USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  16:57:55  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
Win2K Pro/XP Pro will only support 10 concurrent connections using IIS. Just an FYI.

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Jim Frazee
Starting Member

USA
1 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  18:21:01  Show Profile
The Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine (MSDE) is also free. It has the functionality of SQL Server, just no interface.

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Dave.
Senior Member

USA
1037 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  18:51:56  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by dayve

Win2K Pro/XP Pro will only support 10 concurrent connections using IIS. Just an FYI.



Sorry, I don't understand what that means or how it will effect me.

thanks for all your help guys! is there anyway I could run my own Email exchanger thingy? so I could do Email?
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DJBBIZ
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214 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  19:07:44  Show Profile  Visit DJBBIZ's Homepage
Nobody in this forum can do you justice on this topic given all you probably need to learn if none of the above made any sense to you. Do yourself and everyone a favor by doing a little bit of studying and then come back here. I am going to point you to what I think is one of the easiest, most useful well written tutorials on the Internet on starting and running your own web site, this will become one of your favorite links: http://www.dslwebserver.com Once you have reviewed this document you will get so much more out of the questions and answers posted in this forum.


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dayve
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USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  20:06:06  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Frazee

The Microsoft SQL Server Desktop Engine (MSDE) is also free. It has the functionality of SQL Server, just no interface.



Enterprise Manager is definately needed to manage this and MSDE does not handle well with many connections. IMHO, its not worth it, if you want something free and powerful, then use MySQL

quote:
Originally posted by Dave6625

quote:
Originally posted by dayve

Win2K Pro/XP Pro will only support 10 concurrent connections using IIS. Just an FYI.



Sorry, I don't understand what that means or how it will effect me.

thanks for all your help guys! is there anyway I could run my own Email exchanger thingy? so I could do Email?



10 concurrent connections means if you have 10 connections to your web server, the 11th connection will be refused. In other words, at peek times on your forum you may get a lot of people not being able to get to your forum.

Running an Email Server requires a few options that you'll probably not want to get into. One of those options being that you should have a static ip address OR static DNS name that can resolve your dynamic IP address. Then you'll need the really, really expensive Email Server Software where you'll have to configure. If you know nothing about Email Servers, its generally not something you'll want to dive into.

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Dave.
Senior Member

USA
1037 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  20:45:11  Show Profile
davye,

so what OS can I use that will allow more than 10 connections, and still let me use my computer, and not buy a server OS, like Windows 2000 Server?
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Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
6907 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  21:05:04  Show Profile
look into using mysql perhaps.

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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  21:11:52  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nikkol

look into using mysql perhaps.


Hmm... not really a DB issue here Nikkol.
I guess using Apache as a web server and Chili!ASP could be an option, but Chili!ASP (or SUN ONE ASP as it's called now) costs 500$, so buying a server OS (Win2K Server) would be the best option.

Of course, you could also apply for a beta .NET server. It would be free for a year, I guess.


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Edited by - ruirib on 20 December 2002 21:30:11
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Nikkol
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USA
6907 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  21:16:24  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by ruirib
Hmm... not really a DB issue here Nikkol.


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Dave.
Senior Member

USA
1037 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  21:21:59  Show Profile
is there any way I could have win98, and my existing XP home on my computer at the same time? Multiple boot? (Can someone explain multiple boot?)
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  21:29:16  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Why would you want to do that? Does that have anything to do with this issue? XP Home cannot be used for hosting, since it does not come with IIS.


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@tomic
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USA
1790 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  21:51:19  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage  Send @tomic an ICQ Message
Besides everything else above you will need to become an expert on security very, very quickly. It doesn't sound like you have much experience doing this at all. There are a lot of advantages to just paying a small monthly fee for professional webhosting and going to sleep at night without worrying.

If it's just something to mess with so you can learn fine but I wouldn't want an important site hosted this way. Not without 24/7 monitoring/backup, emergency generators, security, SQL licensing, server licensing, configuring. We are talking about a lot of aspirin here.

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Dave.
Senior Member

USA
1037 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2002 :  22:20:43  Show Profile
@tonic,
I may SEEM like an idiot, but I do understand most of this stuff. I just downloaded an OS, and my DSL has a firewall included, and I'll get Norton anti-virus soon also.
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