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stylishvn
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Posted - 23 December 2002 :  11:58:57  Show Profile  Visit stylishvn's Homepage  Send stylishvn an ICQ Message  Send stylishvn a Yahoo! Message
I haven't knowledge in Unicode so plz tell me in detail
where could I set html charset for utf-8 ?
in Snitz 3.3.03 I didnot have to set anything but typing Uni well

...and typing Unicode [ Snitz 3.3.03 ] looks well only when I view site with Encoding --> Western European [Windows]
not UTF-8
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Edited by - stylishvn on 23 December 2002 12:18:43
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Posted - 23 December 2002 :  16:10:56  Show Profile
I have 3.4.03 running in unicode with no problem. If you are talking of having all Category Title, Forum Title, Topic, subject Titles (all title fields) and contents in languges (pretty much any langs/charsets supported in unicode UTF8), it can take it. I am using MS Global IME as input methods as my enviornment is all on English but needs to handle Far Eastern char inputs... Only thing I did was to set that little HTML encoding definition in inc_header.asp at the top below the copyright statement - as in the case of V3.3.0x - for utf-8. That's pretty much all there is. Working fine with MODS and all as well.

You seem to have not set your forum base encoding format to unicode....Snitz is set to ISO-8859-1 encoding group as a default (Latin-1, comparable to Western Europe in Windows). If you view it unicode encoding with "Western Europe[Windows]" then, your contents/db are not in unicode formatted - which means that your forum is not formatted in unicode (UTF-8)... so try to add this in inc_header.asp and see how it works - right below the copy right statement at the top....

%><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=utf-8"><%


There is a very simple rule: if you want to view unicode (or any other charset ) in a browser, you have to set your browser encoding to unicode (UTF-8)(or to other lang proper encoding), but this is only for representation in a browser, your data/text strings need to be in that encoding format ... so you have to set your Snitz forum to handle unicode charsets...

There may be special chars that may not supported in standards unicode charsets for Vietnamese... (as in case of Turkish, I believe there are some special chars that need to be "hardcoded" in unicode charsets.).. am not sure. Check Vietnamese and Unicode related categories in the previously mentioned link... I believe they have extensive information/resource on this issue... (I don't read Vietnamese so am not clear on the specific contents, though)




Hope this helps.<

Taku

Edited by - n/a on 23 December 2002 17:38:04
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stylishvn
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Vietnam
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Posted - 24 December 2002 :  04:16:25  Show Profile  Visit stylishvn's Homepage  Send stylishvn an ICQ Message  Send stylishvn a Yahoo! Message
thanks LeoRat so much but my problem still make me bore. I think the good way 's plz visit my 4rum and see so you could help me fully
I use vietuni8.js for member post VN language also if I use Vietkey Unicode's not good
Here my link http://vietduc-hs.net

thanks all 4 read & help

edit: some people told me should add <% CODEPAGE=65001 %> before an script so Uni's good, do I need it ??<

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Edited by - stylishvn on 24 December 2002 05:52:05
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Posted - 24 December 2002 :  07:51:41  Show Profile
Looks like that your forum is deployed in utf-8...and top default page rendering all right (as far as I can tell - no funny corrupted charsets...) - which I assume are all created by Forum Admin using utf-8 input.

All corrupted topic contents - some shows differen char encoding corruption... these I assume are the ones either existed prior to your conversion of the forum encoding to unicode/utf-8. In that case, all previously posted contents in non-UTF8 - either ISO or Windows charsets/encoding - will not "automatically" converted into UTF8, thus results in something like what you have - corrupted charsets... This is one of the problem when you "re-set" a default encoding scheme after a forum has been deployed in one encoding...

Another possibility for any posts which are posted after you reset your forum with utf-8 and which are showing corrupted charsets in the posts are possibly due to an input encoding charset incompatibility with utf-8...

These are some things I can say from my experience with CJK, esp. Japanese (Shift-JIS vs utf-8).... Beyond that, your forum, as mentioned, appears fine with utf-8 deployment.....

Also some of langs in Windows encoding does not correctly convert into utf-8 formats... we tried with some East European languages and those created in Windows encoding format could not be "fully" converted into utf-8...and perhaps there are something similar with Vietnamese as I understand it is fully supported in Windows encoding format.....

As for using 9500... perhaps this post will help you as it discuss how to do it in depth....
http://forum.snitz.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=36643

Am not sure whether this is any additional help....

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Edited by - n/a on 24 December 2002 08:04:35
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Posted - 24 December 2002 :  09:19:34  Show Profile
Also you need to use a unicode compatible database such as Access 2000 (or newer), (MS SQL 7) or better MS SQL 2000 (or newer).
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stylishvn
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Vietnam
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Posted - 24 December 2002 :  14:24:41  Show Profile  Visit stylishvn's Homepage  Send stylishvn an ICQ Message  Send stylishvn a Yahoo! Message
thanks all guys here so much
seem my 4rum works well with Unicode and I'll post here if I've new problem.
I have a small question: only Unicode in Text Box [ e.g: Jump to ] 's not correct. could I fix it ??

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Posted - 24 December 2002 :  16:30:49  Show Profile
You can use a standard feature of editing your Category and/or Forum titles. Login as Admin. Go to each Category or Forum which you would like to "change" a title text, click "edit" and change. Most likely you will need to "re-write" or "write over" the existing corrupted title texts with unicoded Vietnamese chars... and that should do it.

BTW, charset/encoding format and LCID are not necessarily the same... so, it is a good idea to have your LCID to a Vietnamese code (language country id) as Rui mentioned at the top.


Cheers.<

Taku

Edited by - n/a on 26 December 2002 10:04:01
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