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Bookie
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USA
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Posted - 15 December 2002 :  16:26:56  Show Profile  Visit Bookie's Homepage  Send Bookie an AOL message  Send Bookie a Yahoo! Message
I've got three computers: two desktops and a laptop. I've been checking into wireless networking but for me it's too cost prohibitive. So, I went to Home Depot and bought some wire. I'll start running the wire during the two weeks I have off for Christmas. I'll setup my old Pentium 200 as a server in the basement along with my hub and DSL modem, my main desktop machine in my bedroom, and I'll put a couple other connections throughout the house so I can rove with my laptop. Wish me luck! It's a single level house with a basement so it will be pretty easy to do.

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laser
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Australia
3859 Posts

Posted - 15 December 2002 :  16:40:29  Show Profile
My advice ? .... setup everything on 6' cables first, then you know it works and can go back to a 'known source' for testing. Should be simple though, I wired my house before - server, hub, cables, crimper, wall jacks, a few hours, very nice
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader

Australia
2085 Posts

Posted - 15 December 2002 :  18:21:30  Show Profile
I am in the process of building a new house, and before the plaster board goes on, I will be there running the network cables through the walls to every room with telephone line. Saves me later on when I go "I should of put a network conection in here"..


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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 15 December 2002 :  19:04:21  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
There's some great combo cables out there now which have AV + Cat5 (sometimes several) + RJ45 etc on there in one strand of cable, makes running things much easier.

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dayve
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USA
5820 Posts

Posted - 15 December 2002 :  20:10:58  Show Profile  Visit dayve's Homepage
let's be optimistic people!!!! Wireless kicks butt, I use it for 4 computers and it works out just fine. 11b routers and nics are really cheap right now too, you can find a router for 79 bucks and nics ranging from 49-79 bucks. Check out ebay for sure....

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 15 December 2002 :  20:30:30  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
True, but for wiring a house I'd still much rather prefer to have a structured wiring solution than Wireless, especially for things like video on demand in each bedroom etc :) .. heh you don't want to see my home wiring :)

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redbrad0
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USA
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Posted - 15 December 2002 :  23:40:24  Show Profile  Visit redbrad0's Homepage  Send redbrad0 an AOL message
i have wireless, but i still like wired. my wireless goes down once in awhile and i get better speed when im wired then wireless.

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Bookie
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USA
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Posted - 15 December 2002 :  23:56:19  Show Profile  Visit Bookie's Homepage  Send Bookie an AOL message  Send Bookie a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by Gremlin

There's some great combo cables out there now which have AV + Cat5 (sometimes several) + RJ45 etc on there in one strand of cable, makes running things much easier.



Any idea where I could find this stuff?

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Gremlin
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New Zealand
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Posted - 16 December 2002 :  03:20:16  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
Something like this is what I had in mind, also search the net for "Structured Wiring" and you'll find a lot of information on best practices for home wiring solutions.

http://www.broadbandutopia.com/bulkcable.html (look at the composite cables)

This is by no means the best range out there, I just can't find any links right now.

Search for "composite cables" and you'll probably find a bunch more different products.


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Francodepaw
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USA
111 Posts

Posted - 18 December 2002 :  00:45:45  Show Profile
Quick note to Noob's to wireless. Change your flipping default settings. Change the ESSID, Turn broadcast ESSID off, change your subnet.

I was riding the neighbors Cable Connection for a month without even knowing it.

I have my Wireless network all changed, but one day I found a Wireless bridge for my XBOX and was so excited about plugging it in and playing with it that I forgot to change its settings to match my network. One day I was having issues with something or other so I plugged the bridge into my laptop and browsed to it and found it was riding on a Roadrunner Cable connection, I have Earthlink.

Neat thing about these wireless bridges is that they scan for wireless networks and try to use the strongest signal. The bridge found three in my living room.

So if u r not into giving away a free ride to the internet (or free run behind your firewall) make sure you change the defaults.

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seahorse
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USA
1075 Posts

Posted - 18 December 2002 :  02:45:54  Show Profile  Visit seahorse's Homepage
Hey that's great! I live in a high rise with a lot of other high rises in the area. Maybe if I just get a 802.11b NIC I can surf off of the broadband users of the entire neighborhood.

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Gremlin
General Help Moderator

New Zealand
7528 Posts

Posted - 18 December 2002 :  05:05:52  Show Profile  Visit Gremlin's Homepage
http://www.warchalking.org/

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ruirib
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Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 18 December 2002 :  06:20:52  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by Francodepaw

Quick note to Noob's to wireless. Change your flipping default settings. Change the ESSID, Turn broadcast ESSID off, change your subnet.

I was riding the neighbors Cable Connection for a month without even knowing it.

I have my Wireless network all changed, but one day I found a Wireless bridge for my XBOX and was so excited about plugging it in and playing with it that I forgot to change its settings to match my network. One day I was having issues with something or other so I plugged the bridge into my laptop and browsed to it and found it was riding on a Roadrunner Cable connection, I have Earthlink.

Neat thing about these wireless bridges is that they scan for wireless networks and try to use the strongest signal. The bridge found three in my living room.

So if u r not into giving away a free ride to the internet (or free run behind your firewall) make sure you change the defaults.


Some wireless access points allow you to define the MAC addresses of the NICs that are allowed to access it. It's a good thing to do too if your WAP allows it.


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pdrg
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 December 2002 :  08:55:17  Show Profile  Send pdrg a Yahoo! Message
Hey ClassicMotorCycling - if you're doing a new build have a word with your telco's there - a new build in the UK can get BT to do a whole load of wicked infrastructure cabling for gratis (or so i gather from a geeky friend who did a self-build, and did just this)

If anyone in the UK is doing this right now, nudge me and I'll see if i can egt details for you :-)
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader

Australia
2085 Posts

Posted - 18 December 2002 :  15:03:13  Show Profile
I have asked them what sort of cost it would be for them to do it, and they want about $AUS1000.00 to wire it up.. I can do it for about 1/2 days work and that's all. I have been given the cable from the Network dudes here at work, and I have been give a heap of wall plates and a small cabinet to run the cable back to.
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Originally posted by pdrg

Hey ClassicMotorCycling - if you're doing a new build have a word with your telco's there - a new build in the UK can get BT to do a whole load of wicked infrastructure cabling for gratis (or so i gather from a geeky friend who did a self-build, and did just this)

If anyone in the UK is doing this right now, nudge me and I'll see if i can egt details for you :-)

As I am running the Network cable in, I figure that I may as well run telephone down the other side of the double wall plates. Network and Telephone in each room..

I would of gone wireless, but as others can hook in to your network with out the need to go in the house, I decided against that option. Big security warnings about systems being hacked from people using wireless..


Cheers,

David Greening
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