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Francodepaw
Junior Member
USA
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 Posted - 10 December 2002 : 22:08:54
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...or are there others that work in mind boogling IT groups. Work for IT people with limited techical know-how.
Scenerio:
I have set up a Snitz Intranet for my company, In the testing stages right now with about 50 people using it, and I have set up my entire IT group with a private forum. Anyone who has seen it, absolutley loves it. Anyways one of the young guys in IT sends an email to everyone asking our thoughts on something. I send an email back notifying everone that I started a Topic in the forum and to go there to read my response and reply to the thread.
I get a response in email, from next person above the director of IT and here is the exact verbage:
At the end of the day the results of any pertinent dialogue still needs to be communicated. I have no intention of slogging my way through a forum to get updated.
What part of easy don't these people get? They would rather have a thread spread across 30 emails? Has anyone here had to slog through a forum? |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 December 2002 : 22:32:59
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enable subscriptions, mod them slightly so they send the post contents, and them subscribe him to the whole board, that should shut him up for a while  |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 10 December 2002 : 23:32:10
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Evil Huw At Work, be afraid, be very afraid  |
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Francodepaw
Junior Member
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 10 December 2002 : 23:57:57
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I like it  |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20584 Posts |
Posted - 11 December 2002 : 00:31:06
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Who me
seriously, I had a similar experience a few weeks ago while in a dev meeting with a client, they decided that they wanted to make there site more interactive and user friendly, so were going to drop their forum ???, I had to take a very deep breath at that point |
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seahorse
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 11 December 2002 : 08:46:12
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Originally posted by HuwR
enable subscriptions, mod them slightly so they send the post contents, and them subscribe him to the whole board, that should shut him up for a while
What's evil about that? You're just giving the user what they deserve asked for.
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Francodepaw
Junior Member
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 11 December 2002 : 09:06:53
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It's just frustrating to work for a CIO who's only source of technical knowledge is what he reads on IDG.net and a Director of IT who's major accomplishment for the last year was to learn how to spell synergy (he still does not know what it means) and use it in a sentence in every email or meeting we have. 
The main obstacle to progress is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge |
Edited by - Francodepaw on 11 December 2002 09:07:33 |
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pdrg
Support Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 December 2002 : 09:25:08
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Sadly it's very common for those higher up the tree to get there not by being the best developers (who are needed on the ground, and often want to stay coding cos they enjoy it), but by being less valuable to the dev pool (and wanting to get promoted away from all that icky code).
All in an ongoing business-oriented syneristic context, of course.
Read Dilbert, realise *everyone* has it exactly the same, and go contract instead to avoid the politics  |
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Kat
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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sy
Average Member
United Kingdom
638 Posts |
Posted - 11 December 2002 : 11:38:26
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The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails
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Kat
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JoHnNyBaDaZ
Starting Member
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Posted - 11 December 2002 : 11:59:45
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quote:
Originally posted by Francodepaw
At the end of the day the results of any pertinent dialogue still needs to be communicated. I have no intention of slogging my way through a forum to get updated.
What part of easy don't these people get? They would rather have a thread spread across 30 emails? Has anyone here had to slog through a forum?
If you gave this person a shovel to dig a hole, he would stick the handle in the dirt and say,"This is going to take too long, let's hire a consultant to find a better way." |
JoHnNyBaDaZ
If it can't be broke I'll fix it so it can.
If it can't be fixed, I'll break it 'til it works. |
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Francodepaw
Junior Member
USA
111 Posts |
Posted - 11 December 2002 : 20:56:42
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Originally posted by pdrg
All in an ongoing business-oriented syneristic context, of course.
You've been to my favorite spot haven't the the Ol' BS generator http://www.dack.com/web/bullstuff.html
Where you can dazzle the Director of IT with such statements as:
transform visionary schemas or architect best-of-breed initiatives try it it's a lot of fun.
or for even more fun play some BS Bingo when the CEO is giving one of those I know you've heard me say this before meetings...
Go here http://www.perkigoth.com/home/kermit/stuff/bullshitbingo/ print off some cards and have at. |
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seahorse
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 11 December 2002 : 21:05:36
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Not being an outstanding developer, I often work with users gathering user requirements. I think that gives me a better understanding of both sides. Many times that means that I'm in the middle of the crossfire between the users who WANT this and developers who think the users NEED that.
Neither side is always right and many times one or both sides will come in with unrealistic preconceptions of what is and isn't required.
I think that a similar situation is true for IT Managers. The view at the top is just different from the view down at the bottom.
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Francodepaw
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 11 December 2002 : 21:22:35
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Originally posted by seahorse
Not being an outstanding developer, I often work with users gathering user requirements. I think that gives me a better understanding of both sides. Many times that means that I'm in the middle of the crossfire between the users who WANT this and developers who think the users NEED that.
Neither side is always right and many times one or both sides will come in with unrealistic preconceptions of what is and isn't required.
I think that a similar situation is true for IT Managers. The view at the top is just different from the view down at the bottom.
I'm in the same boat as a Network Administrator, Users wants and Needs and the Politics of my own group. I tend to help the user base before trying to fight with my own people. Kind of a renegade that way, but it is the user community that makes the money for the company while the big guys get bonuses for Christmas.
Kinda sad how that works. |
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StephenD
Senior Member
Australia
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Posted - 11 December 2002 : 21:37:17
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I started using Snitz only 5 months ago and it is now invaluable to the running of our company across 5 States. I was contracted to 'finish' an Intranet project that had already cost them AUS$30K with a budget for another AUS$40K to complete. Once in, I scrapped everything and replaced the work in progress with Snitz and ACT! for minimal outlay.
Snitz has been one the greatest success stories in my career. |
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