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DarlingBri
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 07 December 2002 : 06:12:08
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I really, really want to donate to Snitz using PayPal. I was very happy when I stumbled upon a link to the Donations page.
But it appears I can't just make a donation to Snitz... I have to actually choose the person to whom I want to donate? That's awful! How in the world do I choose?
I know I could just divide my donation up, but then it's not a very substantial donation. I mean, obviously the Snitz donation recipients have set this up the way they want it to work, but from the point of view of someone who really does want to donate, the selection process makes it needlessly complex and is kind of a bummer. |
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redbrad0
Advanced Member
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
3545 Posts |
Posted - 07 December 2002 : 11:20:46
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Think about it on the reverse side, if we have a central account, one person has to manage that on an ongoing basis. I used to do that, and it realy gets hard to decipher what the intent of the donator is, and who the money should go to (based on who gave them the most help and responsibilities of the awardee, so on and so forth).
I decided on the current model caus this way none of us on the administrative team have to second guess the intent of the person making the donations. If you want to give a donation to everyone on the team, or just a couple individuals, don't hesitate to "Split" it and give each a smaller donation. $10 each or $20 to one account is the same to us all, however, $10 is a meal, a few long distance phone calls, taking our wives on a desert date, part of paying for the bandwidth taken by this website each month, a piece of keeping this server running to support all of you, a couple six packs of Mountain Dew to stay awake answering questions, a pound good coffee for the same purpose... etc... etc...
No donation is small... the other thing that is said by a donation is this: "I care enouph about what your doing to invest what I have in you." Think of the power in that little sentance... and how it helps to inspire and modivate someone... that is what any donation does... from $5 to $5,000,000. |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
5820 Posts |
Posted - 07 December 2002 : 11:43:52
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I nominate myself Treasurer... send all donations to me!!!  |
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DarlingBri
Junior Member
United Kingdom
378 Posts |
Posted - 07 December 2002 : 13:00:50
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reinsnitz, you'll all get dessert date money from me, no worries :)
I'm just saying that doing it that way is a) a pain, and b) offputting. (Generally, when I want to extract money from people, I try to make it as painless as possible for them.)
OK, now where did the blasted donations link go? |
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Doug G
Support Moderator
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Posted - 07 December 2002 : 13:08:52
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Donations do not go to everyone on the team, just to the selected names.
It's totally valid to contribute to defray the hosting costs and out of pocket expenses. Otherwise, I agree with Bri, it's a popularity contest that's not open to everyone.
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GauravBhabu
Advanced Member
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Posted - 07 December 2002 : 13:48:52
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| I agree with Doug G on contributions to pay for the hosting costs and out of pocket expenses. If Donations are based on who gave the most help then there are many names which might be worthy of making to the list. |
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PeeWee.Inc
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 December 2002 : 13:54:36
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| I always thought that donations always got used to pay for the site and stuff? |
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Posted - 07 December 2002 : 14:25:56
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There are 5 donation links... one is for hosting costs.
The reason the whole team is not listed on this page is becaus the names listed for donations are those of the copyright holders. The key core of people who keep the very heart of this whole project alive. They are listed there. Now this is not to say that anyone can not give anyone else a donation becaus there name is not listed.
It's not a popularity contest in any way. In the past I have gotten donations that were designated for the whole team (in goods), I listed them on the forums here and sent them out to people who wanted them...
Take it for what it is. |
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
3545 Posts |
Posted - 07 December 2002 : 14:28:15
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I guess it would also be worth mentioning, that the donations that are recieved are not discussed between those recieving them in any way (unless the one making the donation specificaly requests it). There is no contest between us. We don't even know who gets what.
Hakuna Matata. |
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David K
Junior Member
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Posted - 07 December 2002 : 16:20:47
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I belive that over half of the people in this forum are a part of this project:
People creating MODs (I made one )
People giving advice
People reporting and fixing bugs
People tring to hack into the forum to find security issues (Don't get any ideas)
there are several hundreds of people doing all of that, so it would be impossible to give EVERYONE a donation, and even if you limit the thing to the "top" developers, you are left about 10-20 people, and then a $10 donation, wold give most of them just several cents.
so that's why they give the ability to choose!
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DarlingBri
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 December 2002 : 17:44:41
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Argh. I did not mean to start a "thing". I'm sorry 
If anyone is offended that they're not on the donations recipient list, let me tell you: you're not missing much. When you make a PayPal donation, you can see how many PayPal donations a recipient has recieved.
The highest figure was an appallingly low number.
That's sad |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
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Posted - 07 December 2002 : 19:49:31
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Yeah, I find it a bit disappointing that people choose not to give a few bucks at least to keep this going. I've had people offering to pay for help that I give and I always ask them to donate to Snitz instead.
Having this forum software spared me a lot of trouble when I started using it. I try to pay back by giving help here, and I do have fun doing it too. Probably if I were not a moderator here I would already have made a donation. I love the functionality of the code but I enjoy much more the readiness of the community members to help out whatever the coding need you have. I also think we have a community with outstanding quality, technically wise. That so much qualified people is so readily available to help out is worthy of some monetary donation by itself, IMHO.
At the very least, to help support the costs of hosting this forum, which enables this community existance.
Just MVHO . |
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dayve
Forum Moderator
USA
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Posted - 07 December 2002 : 22:19:00
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if you feel strongly that all of them should get a piece of the pie, the divide your donation up and go through the effort of evenly donating the same amount to each account. it should only take an extra 5 minutes.
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TestMagic
Senior Member
USA
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Posted - 07 December 2002 : 23:23:41
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Well, it seems we are all talking about the best way to handle donations, so I'd like to add os meus dois centavos. I've always believed that many people want to donate, but are afraid of doing so for fear of appearing "cheap." In other words, they think that they'd be willing to donate US $1, $5, or $10, but they're afraid that everybody else is donating in the high numbers, so they don't.
In fact, I've been thinking about asking you guys about something like a "$5 Campaign." Under this campaign, we'd ask for only a small amount, which of course many, many users could afford. The idea is that the higher number of contributors would ultimately be higher than the lower number of bigger contributors.
A site I used for a while has an interesting synopsis of how asking for less money resulted in higher donations. You can read the article here:
http://tipping.selfpromotion.com
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Reinsnitz
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
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Posted - 08 December 2002 : 00:14:23
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but see... the bottom line is, we don't ask for any money.
The only reason the donations page is up is becaus we had a lot of requests for it.
If we did a $5 campaign, we'd want to point that whole effort to hosting cost or something... Huw would need to say weather or not this was even a consideration as his business is what is hosting this server... and I don't know if any sum of money of any size would contradict or be beneficial in any way to helping or harming his efforts. |
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