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terryp
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 Posted - 15 November 2002 : 04:40:58
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I guess this is bringing a discussion from elsewhere into here (seems to fit better  , hands on hearts, who reads manuals?
Are you one of those who doesn't touch anything without reading the manual first, or are you a demon like me, can't wait to get hands on and learn by trial and error? |
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Kat
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United Kingdom
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pdrg
Support Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 04:58:07
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| DRTFM ;-) |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 05:05:50
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Manual
Isn't that a spanish waiter 
Seriously, I have a huge bookcase full of them (thank god they now come on CD), just gathering dust, some still in their celophane wrappers, it depends what the maual is for as to whether I read it or not. |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 05:17:36
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Sounds like I'm pretty similar to Huw the bulk of the stuff I've got here are Mainframe Manuals though from IBM, CA, Sterling and a bunch of other vendors, guess you could call MSDN almost a manual got a few years worth of them here. And I've got one bookcase row set aside for my 'internet' technology books (along with about 300 Meg of various e-book format manuals)
Generally I read or at least skim read most of them whether I actually use the thing or not, I used to be way too geeky when I started as a VSE Computer Operator I could be found reading manuals in down times when others were reading 'real' books. |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 05:35:39
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Generally I read or at least skim read most of them whether I actually use the thing or not, I used to be way too geeky when I started as a VSE Computer Operator I could be found reading manuals in down times when others were reading 'real' books.
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 06:16:15
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Way too late for that !! :)
Not all bad though, I strongly suspect reading those manuals like a geek was what got me from a Trainee Operator to a being a Shift Manager in under 18 months (effectively 4 promotions). |
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Rasco
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 06:21:39
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| Manuals? What`s that? Didn`t find the word in my dictionary. |
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HuwR
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 06:32:40
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Originally posted by Gremlin
Way too late for that !! :)
Not all bad though, I strongly suspect reading those manuals like a geek was what got me from a Trainee Operator to a being a Shift Manager in under 18 months (effectively 4 promotions).
I'm sure you're right.
When I first started programming I would digest mountains of code reference books, not so much manuals, more like dictionaries of terms than actual manuals. |
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Gremlin
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 06:43:18
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| The more information you can consume about something when your starting off I think the better you'll be in the end .. then you can afford not to RTFM you've already done the hard work. |
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terryp
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 07:03:41
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| I think there's going to be a distictinctive divide between the do's and don'ts. Another question along the same lines, do men read the manuals more than women? I'm female and the written documentation tends to stay under wraps as I can't wait to get my grubby hands on whatever it is. It can be an appliance, software, car whatever, it doesn't matter..... |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 07:24:34
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I don't think it is a gender issue, just a matter of personal preference, I don't remember the last time I read a 'manual' but if I bought something I was unsure of, I would read the manual, but for most stuff I wouldn't bother, software especially as the manuals generally suck any way.
I just remembered, I read the manual for our bread maker from front to back, best kitchen appliance ever invented |
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terryp
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 07:42:25
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| You got a decent recipe for that breadmaker then HuwR? Mine always comes out like a pitiful example unless I use the pre packed mixes. [:S] |
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pdrg
Support Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 07:49:58
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| I'm married to my bread maker ;-) |
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 08:11:49
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Bit of a difference between Cookbooks and manuals though (must admit I just use the premade mixes unless I'm wanting to make something other than bread in mine .. Croissants etc)
I think its perhaps true as a very wide generalisation that Men do tend to throw caution to the wind and just plug something in and work out how to use it where as women are perhaps a little more cautious (though I don't recall seeing my wife ever read a manual but then shes a mainframe programmer so knows the difference between a CD-ROM Drive and a Coffe Cup holder ) |
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jkmcgrath
Junior Member
USA
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Posted - 15 November 2002 : 08:28:16
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I hate to read manuals too. Now that being said I also like (as gremlin mentioned) to read and learn as much about it as possible when I am away from my computer.
I think when I mentioned manuals in the other forum maybe I should have said "detailed readme.txt" and it would have been better received.
What I would like to see is the basic concept of the standards in coding practice that the snitz dev guys are following so we can follow the same statndards. How all tables basicly tie together. The authentication procedure that is used and on what pages. How the date/time/number configurations are implmented. The standard database tables and fields(which I have now) in the STOCK snitz Those type of things.
Not 1000 page document just a basic road map with a ledgend to keep headed toward my destination. I do my part to help out but my experience is limited.
I think this may help the mods follow the same practice as snitz and easier to implement but you all been doing this longer than myself and have made a great great product. I have been examining others out there and in the end SNITZ ROCKZ |
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