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 Posted - 02 October 2002 : 21:18:38
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Thnak you. I'll check it. It seems promising...
Taku, can you also check it for CJK, they are just nice looking symbols for me  ?
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Posted - 03 October 2002 : 04:21:05
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Thnak you. I'll check it. It seems promising...
Taku, can you also check it for CJK, they are just nice looking symbols for me ?
As an text editor, this does not have any CJK input mechanism, except Kana Japanese [soft keyboard input, but no kana kanji conversion] Cannot figure out to map MS Global IME Japanese/Chinese etc input chars into this editor...didn't work. In terms of flexibility and converting codes into utf-8, esp. CJK, don't see any extra merit...Can do much better with the editor I am using and possibly with NotePad 2002 in a combined use with IE for encoded html page viewing....
My quick review...not quite got into it in detail. Obviously, this is utf-8 default encoding format for page setting so I can do cut and past unicoded charsets into the page w/o problems: eg:
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Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Simplified Chinese.... but again don't have a good input methond which I can use directly with this unicode editor....
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Posted - 03 October 2002 : 06:50:26
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Also, it's bit expensive, huh?
Guess so. Just used personal use version freebie eval pack. Personally I am ok with the one I have which I paid $30 or something but can handle pretty much all encoding schemes, languages (a la programming and linguistic ones), along with freebie plugin for a legit owner for Simple-Traditional Chinese conversion, etc. and viewer with IE/Mozilla, etc... so this is my current default editor...it also highlights codes/scripts, text, etc. very very easy to see...except line numbers are only visible when you mouse over or cursol over to a line....
Perhaps Homesite 5 and Dreamweaver MX can do much better job for handling unicode or doublebyte. Eval Dreamweaver MX worked pretty nicely...for testing out some stuff...
Probably a good editor otherwise for Pan European languages....it got Arabic, Thai, Vietnamese, etc.... although don't know about input method or soft keyboards it supports....
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Posted - 04 October 2002 : 16:45:29
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Posted - 05 October 2002 : 01:30:26
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I continue to have two (for me) problems with Homesite 5.
1) When non-ANSI is enabled, and working with ASP files, it repeatedly askes wbout the format when saving. It appears that it does not recognize UTF-8/ANSI difference correctly
2) If you have very long lines with UTF-8 encoding (try with 1024+ chars) it crashes the file.
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Posted - 05 October 2002 : 01:50:00
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Originally posted by bozden
I continue to have two (for me) problems with Homesite 5.
1) When non-ANSI is enabled, and working with ASP files, it repeatedly askes wbout the format when saving. It appears that it does not recognize UTF-8/ANSI difference correctly
2) If you have very long lines with UTF-8 encoding (try with 1024+ chars) it crashes the file.
Since am now back to my pet forums......
I don't have an enviornment to test it out...got rid of Homesite 5 and DW MX... (both EVAL vers) - they are toooo heavy although nice.
Am not clear how each of these implement UTF8 encoding handling...I had the latest DW MX for a max of eval period and tested/tried with creating some web sites and also with my Snitz forums which use UTF8 as a base encoding scheme...didn't have too much problems but personally didn't like this GUI interface - goes also for FP.
Many good editors cannot handle doublebyte or non Latin-1 group languages... there are issues with input methods as well.
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Posted - 06 October 2002 : 10:55:38
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I played with this Unicode Editor a little bit more and found it has char mapping table which contains KangXi chars and CJK stuff... and noted that a keyboard mapping can be both kana and katakana using shift key but still not clear how to handle kana/kanji conversion, other than using the mapping table to insert chars mannually like the old Japanese typewriter... [No front end processor facility for this editor for kana/kanji conversion]
But since the mapping table contains various unicoded special chars for Japanese, for example, basically it can provide the similar char sets as in Shift-JIS usable (cut/past) into NotePad or Editor that support UTF-8 formatting as well as can do Global IME type editing.... I tried it with NotePad2002 and EmEditor (which I use) in utf-8 format, and still some fonts/chars do not map correctly into them... Because of a soft keyboard mapping feature of this editor, I cannot use Global IME input with it... if it can be used, you can use this as direct UTF-8 input editor for Japanese, Chinese or Korean.... which I do with EmEditor...
EmEditor can handle CJK well, since it is developed by a Japanese developer to address these CJK related issues and encoding formats... Haven't seen any other editor which can handle
[encoding] unicode, unicode big endian, utf-8, utf-7, Chinese Simplified (GB2312)(936)/(HZ)(52936), Chinese Traditional(Big5)(950), Japanese (EUC)(51932)/(JIS)(50220)/JIS allow 1 byte Kana)(50221)/(Shift-JIS)(5932), Korean (ISO)(50225), and Thai, Vietnamese, Turkish, etc.; and [file types]HTML, Java, JavaScript, TSP, Perl, PerlScript, Php, Python, Ruby, Script, SQL, VBScript, etc. This editor can be used with Global IME [which is basiclaly a front end processor], so that I can input Japanese and Chinese directly using it as an input system, and save the files into various encoding formats. This one also comes with plug-in for a conversion between Chinese Simplified and Traditional....
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