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Carefree
Advanced Member
Philippines
4207 Posts |
Posted - 25 September 2002 : 10:35:19
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Thanks - I searched using "Poll Mod" but it didn't come up for some reason, thought that topic had been deleted. |
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favorini
Starting Member
USA
27 Posts |
Posted - 25 September 2002 : 23:40:57
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quote: Originally posted by FrutZle The brown one (date of release) is not available as such but is the date the MOD was uploaded. Link to a demo site (orange) has been or will be added soon. This has been discussed on the SnitzBitz forums and Brad agreed to add it to the options. The red ones aren't available right now, except the last item in the list which is pretty much the date the MOD was uploaded (or a change to the information was made). I don't see any other way to keep track of when a MOD author was working on his/her MOD.
I hope this clears things up a bit
Just got back from out of town... SnitzBitz seems to be unavailable at the moment, so I will post here. Glad to hear about the demo link. The reason I suggested the Release Date as a separate field is that a MOD may have been around for a while before being uploaded to SnitzBitz (or elsewhere). It would be helpful to know that the code itself hasn't been touched for a while.
-Fran
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Fury
New Member
USA
62 Posts |
Posted - 27 September 2002 : 21:18:46
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I can appreciate Davio's and all the other opinions that feel frustrated by the lack of control over the mods. It also looks bad on you when people think it is your original mod. But, a few here have pointed out that the purpose of the open source is to encourage people to add to it. For that matter, the code itself is built on someone else's original code.
Anyone using a mod uses it at their own risk. If they don't realize that then they should be BUYING software. The whole point of many of these mods being posted is for other people to load them and give feedback and help to work out bugs. It is unfortunate when someone disappears but that's the nature of this.
You cannot limit who can write a mod. It's up to the person downloading the mod to decide if they trust the author or not. And you are trusting the person who posted it ... not someone who may have originally created it. For example, I don't have time to play around with mods working or not. So I see the Poll Mod posted and think oh good. But wait, it's not posted by Davio. So I wait and see what happens. Ahhh problems. I'll wait for Davio's release. And so it goes with other mods as well.
No controls. User beware. That's as it should be. We know who the regulars are. Who the quality code comes from. Even if I rarely post anything I am always reading what's going on here. You can never win this battle. The people that complain about bad code and no support for mods are ignorant of how this works and can not be forced to understand.
Sorry ... I'm done babbling now. |
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richfed
Average Member
United States
999 Posts |
Posted - 28 September 2002 : 06:06:27
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I agree ... good judgment [by the user] and patience [also by the user] are the keys here, which is why I haven't downloaded the poll mod - even though I "desperately" want it so that I can upgrade my forum to 3.4. I know, from past experience, that if I run into trouble, Davio will be there to get me out of it. So, I wait for his version! This is all free and complaints, therefore, sound awfully hollow. Users need to invest something ... even if it's only some common sense!
Still, it's good to see a place emerge, like Snitz Bitz, to help siphon the chaff from the wheat! |
Rich [size=1]A Complete Idiot's Guide to MOD Implementation || On the Trail of the Last of the Mohicans[/size=1] |
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MichaelA
Junior Member
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 28 September 2002 : 18:03:51
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quote: Originally posted by richfed
I agree ... good judgment [by the user] and patience [also by the user] are the keys here, which is why I haven't downloaded the poll mod - even though I "desperately" want it so that I can upgrade my forum to 3.4. I know, from past experience, that if I run into trouble, Davio will be there to get me out of it. So, I wait for his version! This is all free and complaints, therefore, sound awfully hollow. Users need to invest something ... even if it's only some common sense!
I agree. That is why, learning from experience, I only use MODs from certain people. The keep up their MODs, they produce great MODs, and they are around to support their MODs. They don't run off wildly updating every MOD and posting it as an updated MOD.
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Still, it's good to see a place emerge, like Snitz Bitz, to help siphon the chaff from the wheat!
SoapBox=ON
Again, while I agree with everything said so far, I also fully agree with this.
- There are newbies to coding, this forum, and even the Internet. They must be "protected" from themselves.
- Say what you want about user beware, and I fully agree, the above will still happen. Someone will download and complain, innocently, and perception ends up becoming fact after about 10 messages. Ever play the old telephone game?
- I agree we can't and agree we SHOULDN'T try to stop people from altering the MODs. The problem is that people are altering them for their own use and then uploading them. The potiential is that there could be 50 versions of a MOD! Who will support all that? The guy that had a friend alter a MOD for him and then he uploads it to help someone else? He can't support it when he can't even spell asp.
- We need a system, if nothing else, to bring order to chaos. We need a system NOT for the people, but for Snitz. Snitz MUST go on in an orderly fashion so it continues to grow, so it continues to get better and better, so it conyinues to have a great reputation. Something this great cannot and must not die. It cannot be forked all over the place and become a mess like some open source does.
SoapBox=OFF
My apologies if I have offended anyone.Just MY feelings and thoughts. I've only been here a couple of months but have grow to love the application and have grown to like many of the people here. While I realize I probably am a pain in the backside, some of these relationships have started because of the untiring effort to help an old man like me. These people have persisted to help and correct my perceived problems and have had the parience to show me my erring. I respect these people for that.
Enough of me. I have to get my shot of Snitz before I start to get withdrawl symptoms.
Later.
Mike
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Doug G
Support Moderator
USA
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Posted - 28 September 2002 : 23:13:36
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quote: There are newbies to coding, this forum, and even the Internet. They must be "protected" from themselves.
It won't be me, I don't like this thought. Unless someone is suffering from a disability, I don't ever feel the need to protect someone from themself. I find it an elitist attitude. I'll cheerfully help anyone that asks and that I feel competent to help, and I'll post warnings about any potential problems in any code I know about. Everyone is free to use or ignore any of this information.
Of course, I also enjoy and wish there were more "Darwin awards" :)
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sy
Average Member
United Kingdom
638 Posts |
Posted - 29 September 2002 : 09:45:46
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quote: Originally posted by Doug G
quote: There are newbies to coding, this forum, and even the Internet. They must be "protected" from themselves.
It won't be me, I don't like this thought. Unless someone is suffering from a disability, I don't ever feel the need to protect someone from themself. I find it an elitist attitude. I'll cheerfully help anyone that asks and that I feel competent to help, and I'll post warnings about any potential problems in any code I know about. Everyone is free to use or ignore any of this information.
Of course, I also enjoy and wish there were more "Darwin awards" :)
Right on!
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MichaelA
Junior Member
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 29 September 2002 : 15:08:13
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quote: Originally posted by Doug G I don't ever feel the need to protect someone from themself. I find it an elitist attitude.
You are entitled to your opinion. I am not elitest, just wanting to help people and see that things go well for them. People here have helped me keep out of trouble and I appreciate it. I have a very high respect and trust for some people here.
Mike
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bbyy
Starting Member
18 Posts |
Posted - 14 October 2002 : 10:44:02
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Hi I installed the Poll Mod, everything went fine. I went to admin options there I've put yes to enable. But I don't find where I have to make a poll now. Do I still have to change something in the code?? |
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TestMagic
Senior Member
USA
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Wiggy
Starting Member
5 Posts |
Posted - 14 November 2002 : 06:39:16
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Sorry, to join in here, where I don't really belong but can I just check whether there is still a poll mod or not. I am keen to get it on my forum but can't find it and have got a bit lost in this discussion.
Thanks for your help
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ajhvdb
Junior Member
Netherlands
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