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Doug G
Support Moderator
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 Posted - 19 September 2002 : 01:24:31
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It boils down to this... Do not install mods that were created by people that aren't reputable.
And of course all authors will append "reputable mod author" to their signatures so this point will become moot.
As far as the GPL goes, I find it depressing that some authors of Snitz code complain about the GPL. I have said many times if you don't like the GPL, don't release your code under the GPL. Snitz code happens to be released under the GPL.
I do think it's only common courtesy to check with the original author of a piece of code before you decide to publish your own fork.
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Cloak
Starting Member
USA
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Posted - 19 September 2002 : 11:28:29
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I think that if there was a defined prefered method of releasing a mod (maybe even as simple as calling it Beta until downloaded a certain number of times or until achieving a certain level of user feedback) most of us would avoid new mods that don't conform.
My forum is too important to risk with untested software - as it is I only use mods by authors I recognize. If there were a standard of this sort, it would make it easier for me to decide whether I want to try out something new.
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MichaelA
Junior Member
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 19 September 2002 : 12:17:42
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Originally posted by Cloak
I think that if there was a defined prefered method of releasing a mod (maybe even as simple as calling it Beta until downloaded a certain number of times or until achieving a certain level of user feedback) most of us would avoid new mods that don't conform.
"reputable mod author"
Kinda like a Windows CompatibilityLogo. You get the Snitz Compatibility Logo to display inj your MOD. 
I like it if it could be done. I agree with your assessment that forums are too important to muck up with bad and unsupported MODs. There will always be bugs. Continuous support is the key.
Good idea.
Mike
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Etymon
Advanced Member
United States
2385 Posts |
Posted - 19 September 2002 : 14:36:42
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My area of interest with the forums is to use modifieds Snitz forums to help disadvantaged children and handicapped adults. This is why I am asking for help in getting the MODs to be more secure.
The Snitz forum has great performance and reliability, and that is very awesome! But several of the MODs also help the forums to be very awesome! They help it become more exciting to participate in. For example, Davio's Poll MOD.
What would Snitz be without the MODs? I imagine support for it would go on, but would Snitz by itself be as fun? Huwr and Richard are both fantastic MOD creators. Didn't their expertise with MOD creation help them become Admins to some degree? How many of the Moderators are not also MOD writers? Most of all, Snitz is about education.
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
9335 Posts |
Posted - 20 September 2002 : 08:11:25
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Originally posted by airilm
If SnitzBitz would only allow the owners of the MODs to uplaod, we would be set...
What makes you think that MOD developers can't upload their MODs to SnitzBitz? Everyone can upload MODs there. All you have to do is register so your name will show with the MOD.
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Originally posted by favorini
I think something like SnitzBitz (I will use this as an example) could be expanded just a bit to solve both my problem and the problem brought up in this thread. Here is what I'd like to see: (I realize some of these are already there. )
- Name of MOD
- Version of MOD
- Compatible Snitz versions
- Date of release
- Author
- Short Description
- Download link
- Link to Demo site(s)
- Link to MOD Homepage (or to a topic here in the MODs group)
- Rating
- Date of last author contact/update
Everything green is already available at SnitzBitz.
The brown one (date of release) is not available as such but is the date the MOD was uploaded.
Link to a demo site (orange) has been or will be added soon. This has been discussed on the SnitzBitz forums and Brad agreed to add it to the options.
The red ones aren't available right now, except the last item in the list which is pretty much the date the MOD was uploaded (or a change to the information was made). I don't see any other way to keep track of when a MOD author was working on his/her MOD.
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sji2671
Junior Member
United Kingdom
185 Posts |
Posted - 20 September 2002 : 17:07:39
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Kinda like a Windows CompatibilityLogo. You get the Snitz Compatibility Logo to display inj your MOD.
That really sounds like a step forward in all the controversy, if the Dev team assigned a new/current Moderator that could rubber stamp mods that they thought were properly tried and tested it would sanction mod's.
Then whatever mod's were released users could at least take their own risks with mod's that were not "recognised" by the Snitz team.
This would also control to a point what was on offer as regards mod's. |
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
12217 Posts |
Posted - 20 September 2002 : 21:36:16
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| I had thought of that image thing...but what prevents another mod author from getting that same image and use it for thier mod? |
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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin
USA
16655 Posts |
Posted - 20 September 2002 : 21:40:52
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| There would have to be some sort of "registry" where MOD Authors would register their MOD and others could look up and see if it really has been "looked at" by whoever was in charge of it. But, any new change to a MOD would require that the MOD be looked at again to become certified again. It would be a rather large task to manage. |
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
12217 Posts |
Posted - 20 September 2002 : 21:56:45
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That's a good idea. Shouldn't be too hard to create a form to do that registration.
I was thinking that once a mod author has submitted thier mod for approval, that their is a wait period before they can resubmit thier mod again for approval, if they made any changes. Maybe like 3-4 weeks. Just rolling out some ideas. |
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Posted - 21 September 2002 : 11:00:04
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You need to create a solid versioning schema for this, which must include a beta version test period & compatibility table (Snitz version, database types, etc)...
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joatham
Junior Member
United Kingdom
169 Posts |
Posted - 21 September 2002 : 19:33:39
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Originally posted by @tomic
Isn't there the potential for some kind of liability if a group proclaims that a MOD is "safe" and sometime down the road something bad happens involving those MODs?
@tomic
Nope, if the MOD is released under GPL (which it must be) then the following applies:-
'## This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
'## but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
'## MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
'## GNU General Public License for more details.
So there is no guarantee that it will work, and it's also not guaranteed not to affect any other programs, or even the whole computer upon which it is sitting. No responsibility is undertaken by the developer of the MOD if it doesn't work as expected. |
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MichaelA
Junior Member
USA
222 Posts |
Posted - 21 September 2002 : 21:37:12
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Originally posted by RichardKinser
There would have to be some sort of "registry" where MOD Authors would register their MOD and others could look up and see if it really has been "looked at" by whoever was in charge of it. But, any new change to a MOD would require that the MOD be looked at again to become certified again. It would be a rather large task to manage.
I'd be happy to help with this if it becomes reality. I'm not the world's best ASP coder but I'll give it a shot. But I am sure they are other areas that I could help - the registration process, testing, whatever.
Richard or Davio just has to ask and I'll help. Let me know.
Mike
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James
Average Member
USA
539 Posts |
Posted - 22 September 2002 : 12:50:48
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I think that a mod author should include their name in the filename that cointains their mod.
Something like James_Active_Users_04.zip (no, I didn't make a active users)
Then, in the readme the Author should state his name, the latest version and filename of his mod (the one it's included with) and a statement that if anyone modifies the mod, that his name be removed from the filename and from the readme as the author. If you see a version going around that's not yours and still has these in it, send the creator a e-mail asking them to modify it. The GPL allows for anyone to modify code, but doesn't allow for them to claim that version is by you if it's not. Also, if you see a version of you mod on here then post a reply stating it's not your mod. If you can't contact the author to have them remove your name, ask a moderator to edit the original post and add a note to the bottom that this is not your mod (in red).
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Carefree
Advanced Member
Philippines
4207 Posts |
Posted - 25 September 2002 : 07:54:15
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| Hey Davio - getting back to the subject, what's the status of the Poll mod, now? |
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
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