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Fuzion
Junior Member
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 Posted - 22 July 2002 : 20:02:27
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Hey, i dont wanna get flamed for this lol but im sitting here watching Sliders the tv show and suddenly out of nowhere an idea pops in my head. You guys know that some mods require that the user go into the individual files and make changes to specific lines right? Well is it possible to build an app that when supplied with the file name, line, and code to be inserted, itll automatically update the script with the code supplied? Just an idea.
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20584 Posts |
Posted - 22 July 2002 : 20:05:02
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of course it would be, the problem is, line xxx in your file may not be line xxx in mine, since you may or may not have the same mods installed.
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Dan Martin
Average Member
USA
528 Posts |
Posted - 22 July 2002 : 21:09:49
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I think anyone who's ever installed a MOD or made a MOD had this cross their mind at some point. I've thought about it, and thought about it. But I've never thought of a good way to make "auto-installing" MODs.
It would be great though.
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James
Average Member
USA
539 Posts |
Posted - 22 July 2002 : 21:21:59
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This would only work for the first mod you installed. Afterwards, line numbers would be different. A installer that keeps track of the changed line numbers could be built, but the problem is that different mods need to be installed before or after other mod lines, etc. and this would make it near impossible to automate. To make matters worse, some mods need to modify the same line or other mods to be able to coexist.
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20584 Posts |
Posted - 23 July 2002 : 11:05:44
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This still wouldn't work, because you may be searching for a line of text which either no longer exist, or has been changed by a different Mod, so you would still have exactly the same problem as if you were using line numbers to do the insert.
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Roland
Advanced Member
Netherlands
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Posted - 23 July 2002 : 11:27:35
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I remember a similar thread as this one quite a while ago where in the end one person kept saying it could be done because other forums did it, while everyone else kept giving the same arguements as Huw has shown: lines change so you can't garantuee that it'll work after having one MOD installed, let alone 3 or 4 which is the amount of MODs I see a lot on forums.
The only solution would be to keep a file with all changed lines to which the program can reference, but even that would eventually prove to be impossible because the program would have to learn to decide when to add a line, when to modify the current line (inserted by a different MOD), where to insert the new lines and whether or not removing a line will "break" something else.
I'm talking about real Artificial Intelligence here 
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
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Posted - 23 July 2002 : 18:09:00
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This still wouldn't work, because you may be searching for a line of text which either no longer exist, or has been changed by a different Mod, so you would still have exactly the same problem as if you were using line numbers to do the insert.
In which case the program just marks that insert or delete for manual completion, its certainly do-able I think its Yabb forums that have something similar already.
We use a code merger at work for merging Assembler code together which several people have been working on at once, you'd be amazed at how acurate this thing is despite all the obvious pitfalls associated with trying to do such a thing.
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20584 Posts |
Posted - 23 July 2002 : 18:43:11
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We use a code merger at work for merging Assembler code together which several people have been working on at once, you'd be amazed at how acurate this thing is despite all the obvious pitfalls associated with trying to do such a thing.
www.daoc-halo.com
I do the same all the time, and use beyond compare to migrate code between forum upgrades, but this is entirely different, and undertaken by people who understand the code they are manipulating, not a complete novice trying do insert code he doesn't understand into even more code he doesn't understand.
I am not saying this kind of this is not possible, I write data manipulation software for a living, so know exactly what is involved in doing this kind of thing, it's just that the time and effort to produce a tool that would not be useable by everyone is not that justifiable
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unifox
Starting Member
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Posted - 23 July 2002 : 19:17:05
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isn't it possible to make it insert a line after another line.....searching in the code and not by line number.......it must be possible!!
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20584 Posts |
Posted - 23 July 2002 : 19:19:40
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This still wouldn't work, because you may be searching for a line of text which either no longer exist, or has been changed by a different Mod, so you would still have exactly the same problem as if you were using line numbers to do the insert.
unifox,
Try reading the other posts in the thread before making your own
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James
Average Member
USA
539 Posts |
Posted - 23 July 2002 : 21:42:15
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Most forum software that have this feature also have the code controlled by the developers. This makes it easy to make such a feature. There is no way possible to make this work with snitz as long as mod developers can freely create their own mods. A installer that searches for a phrase, may end up modifing a line that was needed by another mod, the other mod's line itself, etc. Unless the all mod writers were forced to register their mods, test them with every other mod, etc. there is no way you can account for the majority of problems you will encouter. Mod writers are not going to go through all the trouble to test their mod with every other single mod and if forced it would just cut down on the development of the product. Most mod writers do so in their spare time and don't really have the time for their own coding much less all the added hasle this would impose.
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Gremlin
General Help Moderator
New Zealand
7528 Posts |
Posted - 24 July 2002 : 04:15:00
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but this is entirely different, and undertaken by people who understand the code they are manipulating, not a complete novice trying do insert code he doesn't understand into even more code he doesn't understand.
Agree 100%
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unifox
Starting Member
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Posted - 24 July 2002 : 16:07:18
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sorry....my bad.....just don't kill me for one error
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