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Cinara
Starting Member

USA
15 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  03:37:14  Show Profile
Can the entire forum be passcoded so that when accessing the url for the forum, a box comes up requesting the User Name and Password? If yes, how is that done?

Thanks!

BTW - We have version 3.3.03 - I'm not sure if that is the current version or not...

ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  06:08:51  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
One thing that you can do is change each forum so that its Authorization type is set to allow only registered members to read the posts.

To do this you need to edit each forum, by using the appropriate icon at the top right column (usually a pencil) and choose the value for Auth Type that suits your needs. You can choose to allow access to all registered members, or you can even add a different password to access the contents of specific forums.

And yes, version 3.3.03 is the current Snitz version.

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Edited by - ruirib on 20 April 2002 06:12:31
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Cinara
Starting Member

USA
15 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  12:16:35  Show Profile
Hi - thanks for your reply. We had realized that this could be done. Our problem is we have a restricted forum that we just want certain members to be able to access. By just restricting the topics to Members only, we still have the problem of people signing on to become Members when they shouldn't be. So, is there no way of having a sign in box come up when people are accessing the site from the url? I know many websites have a User Name/Password box the comes up initially for members to sign in. Can this not be done with the Snitz forum?

Thanks again!

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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  12:40:33  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
You can specify "Password" in Auth Type to force users to insert a password to access the forums.

You can also restrict access to a forum to a specific subset of the forums members. Just choose one of the options with "Allowed Member List" in the Authorization Type. You define the list by selecting members from you full members list to the Selected Members list in the list boxes below Auth Type.
You can even choose to have "Allowed Members List and a password", forcing even those from the selected member list to specify a password.

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Cinara
Starting Member

USA
15 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  14:11:56  Show Profile
Thanks again for your reply!

So what you are essentially saying is that there isn't a way to password the entire forum initially before people that shouldn't be signing on as members do so? We wanted non-members who were accessing the forum through the url to not be able to sign on as members - not just prevent them from reading/writing on the topics. Any way to do that?

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Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
6907 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  14:19:42  Show Profile
How did the members of your forum become members in the first place? Are you also wanting to disable registration?

Nikkol
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Cinara
Starting Member

USA
15 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  14:36:04  Show Profile
Hi Nikkol,

We have a main Snitz forum for all members, and have a link on that to another Snitz training forum for selected members. We have new trainees coming on-board all the times, so they need to be able to register on the other forum. The problem we are encountering is that the training forum can also be accessed by it's url which is the same address as the main forum, only it is .com instead of .org.... Therefore we have non-members entering through the url and signing on as members in the training forum - that is what we are trying to prevent.

Any ideas? We thought there would be someway to incocporate a User Name/Password box that pops up before entering the forum - as is on many websites. I am trying to find out if that is possible with the Snitz forum.

Thank you all for any help you can provide with this.

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Nikkol
Forum Moderator

USA
6907 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  14:47:17  Show Profile
Seems like what ruirib was saying would be the easiest way to go. If the training forum shares the same member list your other forum, then snitz will allow those people to logon.

If you can distinguish easily between the two groups (those that have access and those that don't) then you could redirect to another page for those who are NOT granted access. I'm not sure, but I would guess that config.asp is included in all forum pages, so you could add the redirect line there.

Nikkol

Edited by - Nikkol on 20 April 2002 14:49:39
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  14:48:17  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
Of course it is possible. You can change the code to Snitz in whatever manner you like, including demanding a password to access it. You'll have to add the code for that, but it can be done.



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Nathan
Help Moderator

USA
7664 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  14:52:56  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
User groups in a multi forum environment. . . . .

Nathan Bales
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linzz
Starting Member

7 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  17:35:59  Show Profile
I think that I understand your issue. I will be confronting it as well when I get up and running. My first forum will be exclusive for a senior executive networking group CEOs, CFOs in my area and they are extremely sensitive to outsiders even knowing who they are.

In order to be a member of the group, you need to be sponsored in by one of the founding members. Part of my site will be public but the members area must be secure. I like the registration and login functios of Snitz as well as any I have seen. I have access to other logon scripts, but will likely try to use theirs. So, what I will look at when I get set up is removing the registration link from the page and putting it somewhere else, possibly on the admin. page or another of my own pages.

I would appreciate any advice on this. I am extremely impressed with Snitz and the responsiveness seen on this board. WoW, how can they do this for free? The banner ads can't support it. If things work out for me I will be making a donation.

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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  17:42:02  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
It's very easy to change Snitz code to allow only administrators to see the Register link and to stop all other members except Admins to get to policy.asp and register.asp. It only involves adding an extra condition to an if instruction for the register link in inc_top.asp and another if instruction to the top of policy.asp and register.asp to redirect all non-admin users to default.asp.

Let me know if you want the code to do it. I'll just post the instructions here.

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Edited by - ruirib on 20 April 2002 17:42:57
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linzz
Starting Member

7 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  17:48:35  Show Profile
Thanks. I haven't coded for the web since 1966 and am taking it up again since I am an unemployed IT exec. with 32 years in the business. Thanks, and I hope your users know that you don't get this kind of support from most organizations including those that get big $ for their products and product support.

Please Post the code if it isn't too much trouble.

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Nathan
Help Moderator

USA
7664 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  17:52:23  Show Profile  Visit Nathan's Homepage
linzz, will any part of your forum be available for non members? or will it all be in the members only section.

Nathan Bales
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  18:03:47  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
In inc_top.asp around line 350, add the code in red:

if (strAutoLogon <> 1) and (mlev=4) then
Response.Write " |" & vbNewline & _


At the top of both policy.asp and register.asp (around line 43 in both cases - it's a blank line now after the includes) add this:


<% if mlev <> 4 then
Response.Redirect "default.asp"
end if
%>


If you want to change this so that moderators can also access the link and the pages replace (mlev=4) by (mlev>=3)in inc_top.asp
and mlev <>4 by mlev<3 in the conditions for policy.asp and register.asp.

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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin

Portugal
26364 Posts

Posted - 20 April 2002 :  18:16:24  Show Profile  Send ruirib a Yahoo! Message
In order to have a complere solution you also need to add some more code to inc_top.asp:


<%
else
if ((strAuthType = "nt") and (mlev=4) ) then
%>
<td><font face="<% =strDefaultFontFace %>" size="1" color="red">Please <a href="policy.asp">register</a> to post in these Forums</font></td>

<%
else %>
<td><font face="<% =strDefaultFontFace %>" size="1" color="red">You need to be registered to post in these Forums</font></td>


<% end if

The red parts are the ones that need to be added. This only matters if you use NT authentication for the forum, but I decided that it would be better to post it anyway...

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Edited by - ruirib on 20 April 2002 18:17:22
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