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RichardKinser
Snitz Forums Admin

USA
16655 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  01:43:47  Show Profile
I stumbled across this site this evening.

try going here: http://web.archive.org

and then in the search box put: http://forum.snitz.com

or: http://forum.snitz.com/forum/

It does seem to be a very busy site though.

Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  03:41:17  Show Profile
It's a cool site!

(I kept hoping to see Rocky or Bullwinkle show up but ...)


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Jeepaholic
Average Member

USA
697 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  12:45:04  Show Profile  Visit Jeepaholic's Homepage
Hmmm...page keeps erroring out for me.

Wow...that is an AWFUL lot of content they have archived! Yikes.

Al Bsharah
Jeepaholics Anonymous

Edited by - Jeepaholic on 27 October 2001 14:32:26
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Kenno
Average Member

Cambodia
846 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  14:36:27  Show Profile  Visit Kenno's Homepage
I got "Paged cannot displayed".

÷§÷ Kenno ÷§÷
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redbrad0
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USA
3725 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  16:42:34  Show Profile  Visit redbrad0's Homepage  Send redbrad0 an AOL message
you now get this message when trying to search...

Closed for Maintenance

We're sorry, but due to the overwhelming response, the Internet Archive Wayback Machine is temporarily down for maintenance. Access to the past will be available in the future. Please check back with us at 1:00PM Pacific Time. To be notified when we are again available, please enter your e-mail below. We apologize for the inconvenience.



Brad
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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  19:05:07  Show Profile
Geez, they be trying to archive the internet? I would like to take a look at thier office where they keep thier servers. About 100 computers.
Found they archived my forum on my site too.

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redbrad0
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USA
3725 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  19:27:42  Show Profile  Visit redbrad0's Homepage  Send redbrad0 an AOL message
quote:

Over 100 terabytes of data are stored on several dozen modified servers. Alexa Internet, in cooperation with the Internet Archive, has designed a three dimensional index that allows browsing of web documents over multiple time periods, and turned this unique feature into the Wayback Machine.



how many gigs are in 100 terabytes?

Brad
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redbrad0
Advanced Member

USA
3725 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  19:28:50  Show Profile  Visit redbrad0's Homepage  Send redbrad0 an AOL message
also

quote:

data and is currently growing at a rate of 12 terabytes per month



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Doug G
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USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  19:41:50  Show Profile
http://www.pcwebopedia.com/TERM/T/terabyte.html

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redbrad0
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USA
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Posted - 27 October 2001 :  19:49:36  Show Profile  Visit redbrad0's Homepage  Send redbrad0 an AOL message
quote:
(1) 2 to the 40th power (1,099,511,627,776) bytes. This is approximately 1 trillion bytes.


So that means 1 trillion bytes equals about 1,099,511 MB's?

Brad
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kgrimsby
New Member

USA
72 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  20:00:24  Show Profile
quote:
So that means 1 trillion bytes equals about 1,099,511 MB's?

1 terabyte
    = 1,024 gigabytes
    = 1,048,576 megabytes
    = 1,073,741,824 kilobytes
    = 1,099,511,627,776 bytes

because

1 kilobyte = 1,024 bytes

1 megabyte = 1,024 kilobytes = 1,048,576 bytes

1 gigabyte = 1,024 megabytes = 1,048,576 kilobytes = 1,073,741,824 bytes


Ken Grimsby
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Davio
Development Team Member

Jamaica
12217 Posts

Posted - 27 October 2001 :  20:52:30  Show Profile
quote:
1 terabyte
= 1,024 gigabytes
= 1,048,576 megabytes
= 1,073,741,824 kilobytes
= 1,099,511,627,776 bytes

because

1 kilobyte = 1,024 bytes

1 megabyte = 1,024 kilobytes = 1,048,576 bytes

1 gigabyte = 1,024 megabytes = 1,048,576 kilobytes = 1,073,741,824 bytes
That Explains It!!

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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 28 October 2001 :  00:06:47  Show Profile
Ken's definition is correct in the computer industry, and I'm pretty sure it's now the legally correct definition of how bytes are measured.

There has been confusion for years because of the difference between binary and decimal numbering systems. The classical metric definitions, predating computers by a long time, are:

kilo one thousand
mega one million
giga one billion
tera one trillion
peta one quadrillion
exa one quintillion

There was always a problem between marketing and computer technical people discussing capacities. Computer people always worked in binary groups, because computers are binary machines. Many in the early days of computers were also heavy into math or physics, and the metric abbreviations were a natural because they were close to standard binary amounts used by computers. It was much easier to say 64KB when discussing a 16-bit computer register, rather than the more accurate 65.535KB.

The terminology has been legally defined in some lawsuits over hard drive and tape drive capacity marketing statements. Some purchasers felt they were shortchanged when their advertised capacity didn't match what they saw in software routines.

The confusion is still there, and there is a large world outside computing that believes a mega-something is 1,000,000 somethings, not 1,048,576 somethings (including me).


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kgrimsby
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USA
72 Posts

Posted - 28 October 2001 :  05:00:10  Show Profile
quote:
kilo   one thousand
mega one million
giga one billion
tera one trillion
peta one quadrillion
exa one quintillion


Doug's definitions of the metric prefixes are correct in the U.S., where
1 billion     = 1,000,000,000
1 trillion = 1,000,000,000,000
1 quadrillion = 1,000,000,000,000,000
1 quintillion = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000

However, in the U.K. and much of the rest of the world,
1 billion     = 1,000,000,000,000
1 trillion = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
1 quadrillion = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
1 quintillion = 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Still, the metric prefixes (kilo, mega, giga, etc) have the same meanings throughout the world. For example, giga means 1,000,000,000 everywhere.

[... or 1.000.000.000 if your country uses a comma as the radix point .]

Ken Grimsby

Edited by - kgrimsby on 28 October 2001 05:13:22
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Doug G
Support Moderator

USA
6493 Posts

Posted - 28 October 2001 :  12:02:39  Show Profile
Here is an interesting link describing the differences in naming.

http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/large.html

A couple more pages from the same site show the prefixes, including proposed binary prefixes.

http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/prefixes.html#binary
http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/sipm.html

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