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inworg
Junior Member
Italy
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 Posted - 15 June 2001 : 15:57:07
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This will be not a MOD!!!
This will be new stand-alone service to run on a server!
stuF, if u need the code as Snitz-MOD pls let me know asap!!!
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bjlt
Senior Member
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Posted - 15 June 2001 : 22:47:42
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inworg, I send you a mail to support@ your site. as ywy@263.net, please check it. and tell me your idea about it (and the site for refference)
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inworg
Junior Member
Italy
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stuF
Average Member
United Kingdom
561 Posts |
Posted - 16 June 2001 : 05:44:59
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stand alone is fine, as its for a part of my site, not my forum.
plus, you can use the mail/message manager mod for emailing users who are signed up for the snitz (available in the mod addon w/code forum)
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bjlt
Senior Member
1144 Posts |
Posted - 16 June 2001 : 07:15:39
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my email is supporto@inworg.zzn.com
I sent it to that addr, just didn't remember the exact domain name when write the message. have you got the message?
stand along will be fine, as not everybody want to sign up the forum. btw, we can integrated it with the forum db later, or make a stand along table in the forum db.
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inworg
Junior Member
Italy
153 Posts |
Posted - 16 June 2001 : 12:17:46
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Bad news: no yet messages from u in my inbox.... pls re-send!
my e-mail: supporto@inworg.zzn.com
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bjlt
Senior Member
1144 Posts |
Posted - 17 June 2001 : 01:30:59
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I sent it from another pc which i don't have access to now
well, i have a reference site for you.
http://www.arcamax.com
check their emagazine. also try to subscribe for a topic and see how it works. just for a reference, we don't need one exactly like theirs, but i think theirs is really good.
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inworg
Junior Member
Italy
153 Posts |
Posted - 17 June 2001 : 04:29:06
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Ok... max groups 255... is too less? 
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bjlt
Senior Member
1144 Posts |
Posted - 17 June 2001 : 10:13:07
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Ok... max groups 255... is too less?
Wow, I have to find more editors to work for that much groups. 
have you checked the site i mentioned above?
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inworg
Junior Member
Italy
153 Posts |
Posted - 17 June 2001 : 10:41:52
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Yes, don't worry.... I've ready an alpha test of mail-list software... It will be soon available to test (without real send  ). Please be patience 'cause my hosting provider has a bad time with services... I'm having 10/15 shutdowns per day and slow speed.  ... which is your domain-provider? How much does it cost?
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bjlt
Senior Member
1144 Posts |
Posted - 17 June 2001 : 10:52:07
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my host is a 75usd/m one, but I got it cheap in a promotion period, otherwise i can't afford that.
domain name is 8.99usd/year. I myself also is an domain registration agent, but haven't start working on it yet.
you are great, thanks.
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inworg
Junior Member
Italy
153 Posts |
Posted - 17 June 2001 : 11:07:31
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I pay 25$ /year. I can use: ASP, PHP, PERL, unlimited space, 5 email accounts (3 Mb each no webmail) unlimitetd trafic in ftp, Database MDB.... and the service is pure s**t. .
PLS if u're online now, join asap inworg chat! u've 5 min. since now.
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bjlt
Senior Member
1144 Posts |
Posted - 17 June 2001 : 22:35:02
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I pay 25$ /year. I can use: ASP, PHP, PERL, unlimited space, 5 email accounts (3 Mb each no webmail) unlimitetd trafic in ftp, Database MDB.... and the service is pure s**t. .
PLS if u're online now, join asap inworg chat! u've 5 min. since now.
you get that much for $25/year, then you can imagine their service.
my$75/m host have some limitations: my most concern is traffic, I only have 15G/m (including mail, ftp upload). It's ok now as the site is not officially launched, but I think a site based on snitz will use a lot of traffic (if you are lucky enough to have a lot of active members my work around for this is to have the chat and email hosted on another machine, however, don't know the traffic when the site is up.
my host a/c don't have merchant a/c either, 1000m/space shared for email/sql/web, cgi-bin, 24/7 support. 99% up time, control panel. haven't try much but up to now it's alright.
I wasn't online in 5 min, I later tried to logon to your chat but I think the server was down then. Hope it's not caused by your chat script.
what's your idea to intergrate your programe with snitz? Well, I'd like to use snitz as the backbone for article editing. then I pull out the articles with slash mod or content mod, and make it static. the static pages are sent out in the mailing list. I'm still thinking if I need to track which articles have been used.
say, in mailing list group 1 issue 100, (or simply 001-100 indicating the same thing) article Topic_id12 and 13 are included. some articles might goes to several issues of the mailing list.
we can make a new table linking with snitz maybe including
ml_id topic_id (in snitz)
we can track all other things through the ml_id (in the ml db), such as date sent, # of reciepients of that issue, ml category, ml # of issue, url of the issue, etc
For snitz, there's a subscription mod, have you checked that? one can use that to recieve messages in certain cat/forum/topics, is it possible to use that mod? we meed tp disable post by email (actually post by editors only and no reply)
problem for this mod is you need to be a member first.
to further integrate the mailing list with snitz, other than allowing non-snitz-db-members to subscribe to the mailinglist, we can have a user friedly interface for the members. they can sub/unsub to ML on a page, simply check the groups without the need to input their email, then in the confirmation page, the email addr is shown and an input area for them to change it, once confirmed (again if email addr changed), an the data is entered into the ML db with new Customer Id generated. in the ML db, new colums is there for snitz-member-id, also, no new password should be generated for an existing snitz-db member.
that's my general idea, well, we can work on it step by step.
btw, will your version work on sql?
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inworg
Junior Member
Italy
153 Posts |
Posted - 18 June 2001 : 02:37:18
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I usually work under MDB using direct access (no ODBC) and CDONTS to send mail. No problems to change to MS SQL or MySQL. No problems too to change to JavaMail or other components. We can study Snitz to understand how to use different mail components (Great work guys!)
Status of work:
- Database: ok 
- Subcribe interface and check: ok
- Ezine Groups Description Management (add, del, mod) & Subscription update: ok
- User login & profile change: not yet implemented  ;
- User Level management: n.y.i. ;
- Send Ezine: n.y.i. ;
I apologize but my boss is givin me a lot of urgent works ... ...
pls check http://www.inworg.com every day... soon a preview of ML (I hope today or tomorrow) son u can help me to correct bugs or check status of work !
About my server:
If I've a lot of system services but nothing works, is as have nothing! I'm thinking to buy a K6-500 (64 Mb), install Linux + Apache + ChilliASP + PHP4 + Perl + MySQL and connect it using an ISDN 64K... I think that is not the fastes method but I'm sure it will work better than now!
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bjlt
Senior Member
1144 Posts |
Posted - 18 June 2001 : 06:40:50
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Sometimes we have to work for make a living. The brighter side is that sometimes we work for fun
Well, there's no need for you to apologize, we all know here if even if someone stops working on a project or give no further support, he must have his reason.
some new consideration:
we need to consider how the system works when someone re-subscribed to the same topic using the same email addr. I think we just display a message that they have already singed up for those topics and send the password to that addr.
did you consider the (further) intergration with snitz?
Besides what I mentioned above, i just thought that we should consider the intergration both directions. if someone signs up to the mailing list first, and then subscribe to the forum db, either just leave it along and let him get two copies of the ezine (if he uses two dif addr.), and unsubscribe one himself. or provide a link for them stating they have already subscribed to some topics. then they need to logon to their mailing list a/c to intergrate their forum a/c. This is in a low priority as I think most members will subscribe to the forum main db first.
in the Ezine I mentioned, they also have a choice for the subscriber of recieving email in what format, plain text, html, (aol prior 6, aol 6) I don't use aol and don't know its dif with other html browsers) I know some people don't like to see a html version email or their client just won't display it. It's better to have such a field in the d/b and hence something to do on the message sent accordingly. I don't know how they handle this problem. do they send out different version? if not, how do they manage it? I only know that some message simply tell you that it's in html format and your client don't support it, so a plain text version is displayed instead. Wonder how they set up different version for the subscribers.
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