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| balexandre |
Posted - 17 June 2008 : 16:53:18
I want to be part of it, but how about you?
Firefox 3 ... World Record
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Download Day is here!
Set a Guinness World Record
Enjoy a Better Web
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| AnonJr |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 20:22:00
I suspect it may have more to do with the fact that those who are not programmers just don't get how much work goes into programming. Even if you've never laid a brick in your life, most people have a good idea how much hard work goes into making a brick wall. Where the common perception is that creating software is easy - I mean all these guys create amazing programs in their spare time?  </sarcasm>
At work, one of the "power users" in the office wanted to learn how to write one of those little automation scripts I keep putting together in VBScript. He came to me figuring that if I could automate all these little things in no time, it was worth his while to learn it himself. Half way through the one we were working on, he goes "D***! I didn't realize just how much work went into one of these little things. I can only imagine what you had to do to get the website up!"
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| SiSL |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 19:41:54
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Originally posted by JJenson
I really find it funny how so many people are anti MS I wonder why?? I mean cause they hire some of the best developers around the world to put out good products. So they want to charge for their software? I mean they are a business and very successful. Is this the reason people hate them cause they make lots of money?
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I guess you got to love people and their ignorance its probably what helps them get through the day.
That's probably the only case... Them earning money from a "virtual" product that you can not hold with your bare hand. This is same mentality for every other software. That's why people tend to pirated games, pirated movies etc. etc. For them, since it is not touchable, eatable, it is waste of money and those who produced them does not deserve to earn money. That's why cheering for any freeware software or crack proffessional software when they use.
It's pretty travesty you know, people giving thousands of dollars to graphics adapters and brand new computer just to play a top-notch game but they get the game pirated.
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| JJenson |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 16:56:27
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Originally posted by phy1729
[quote]Originally posted by JJenson
I really find it funny how so many people are anti MS I wonder why?? I mean cause they hire some of the best developers around the world to put out good products. So they want to charge for their software? I mean they are a business and very successful. Is this the reason people hate them cause they make lots of money?
What's So Bad About Microsoft? is an interesting read.
THis is a funny site to me really lol. I mean seriously they are going ot claim that if you don't use MS you can still have a 486 computer. Your right but I also couldn't have Dreamweaver or IPswitch or hmm I am guessing thunderbird doesn't run on a 486.
This is my point are there flaws? obviously there is no perfect software or os.
The fact is that not only does MS play the no backwards compatibility so does apple. I mean I borrowed an older one form my brother to test so I could see what my client was seeing I found out my mac was to old couldn't support what my client was seeing. Thats funny cause I thought apple was supreme and did everything right?
So I guess you will have to pretty much leave the technological world behind I mean I tried to play my wii games on my old NES and I broke the disk. **** NINTENDO they should know I don't want to upgrade to software they has more features and probably a bunch I won't use but **** them for upgrading lol.< |
| phy1729 |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 16:49:07
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Originally posted by JJenson
I really find it funny how so many people are anti MS I wonder why?? I mean cause they hire some of the best developers around the world to put out good products. So they want to charge for their software? I mean they are a business and very successful. Is this the reason people hate them cause they make lots of money?
What's So Bad About Microsoft? is an interesting read.
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Originally posted by JJenson
We had our local web designer group meeting last night.
Our two html/xhtml/php gurus had already installed FF3 on their machines, while the systems engineer from Cisco (who hates Microsoft) said he wouldn't touch any first release version of any software.
I tend to agree with him.
I agree also. I use FF myself and I probably won't update for a week if at all. I'll test it soon and if I see no significant difference 2 is fine for me (until websites don't support it.)
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| Panhandler |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 11:49:35
We had our local web designer group meeting last night.
Our two html/xhtml/php gurus had already installed FF3 on their machines, while the systems engineer from Cisco (who hates Microsoft) said he wouldn't touch any first release version of any software.
I tend to agree with him.
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| JJenson |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 11:06:57
I really find it funny how so many people are anti MS I wonder why?? I mean cause they hire some of the best developers around the world to put out good products. So they want to charge for their software? I mean they are a business and very successful. Is this the reason people hate them cause they make lots of money?
Firefox is a good browser but so is IE among other ones. Vista is a good operating system. Just cause some person is trying to play a beta tape on a dvd player doesn't make the dvd player bad it means they need to go out adn get the proper stuff to use the DVD player I don't get why people believe computers should be backwards compatible back to the 70's it really gets old.
I guess you got to love people and their ignorance its probably what helps them get through the day.< |
| ruirib |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 07:34:43
That should bring some humbleness into the hypers on the anti MS field, I'm a bit sick of the whole **** thing. After Apple and it's latest OS disaster, bring on Mozilla. The guys at Redmond are just as dumb as anyone else. Ain't that a surprise?!< |
| HuwR |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 07:14:55
Security bugs found in new FF http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/06/19/firefox3_bugs/< |
| HuwR |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 06:37:18
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Originally posted by Shaggy
By the way, as far as the record goes, it was set with the first download of FF3 - Guinness do not currently have a recognised record for most downloads in a 24 hour period!
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| Shaggy |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 04:09:36
By the way, as far as the record goes, it was set with the first download of FF3 - Guinness do not currently have a recognised record for most downloads in a 24 hour period!
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| HuwR |
Posted - 19 June 2008 : 03:09:39
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Originally posted by AnonJr
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Originally posted by SiSL
As for designers, we ought to use them all.
And there is the crux of the matter. As a professional developer, I need to test in all. I have IE7, a "stand alone" IE6, Fx2.whatever, and Opera9. I probably ought to install Safari for Windows, but I usually just bother the Mac Addict over in IST. 
I'll install Fx 3, and use the PortableApps version (scroll down the page) of Fx2 for testing since its going to be a while before usage drops to the point of irrelevance.
Thats why you need IE8, the Dev Tools allow you to test against IE5/6 IE7 or IE8 < |
| bobby131313 |
Posted - 18 June 2008 : 21:32:35
OK, the image problem was photobucket being hacked. Just a coincidence in the timing. I use TreeWalk local DNS server so I had to flush it to get them back. Sorry Mozzila people.  < |
| SiSL |
Posted - 18 June 2008 : 18:59:50
Hehe, yeah that's my quick launch bar, alright
IE8 - Maxthon (for Quick IE7 switch, default) - Opera 9.5 - Firefox 3 - Safari 3 - Netscape (for FF2 compability) - IE tester etc.
I suggest IETester tho, usable after installing IE8, tabbed browser that uses IE8 developer tools to see in IE5.5/6 - IE7 or IE8 modes each tab. Even ofcourse not as compatible as a Virtual PC installed IE6 but for quick checks nice (Basically better UI feeling for Dev tools for now)< |
| AnonJr |
Posted - 18 June 2008 : 18:48:56
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Originally posted by SiSL
As for designers, we ought to use them all.
And there is the crux of the matter. As a professional developer, I need to test in all. I have IE7, a "stand alone" IE6, Fx2.whatever, and Opera9. I probably ought to install Safari for Windows, but I usually just bother the Mac Addict over in IST.
I'll install Fx 3, and use the PortableApps version (scroll down the page) of Fx2 for testing since its going to be a while before usage drops to the point of irrelevance.< |
| SiSL |
Posted - 18 June 2008 : 18:30:01
Exactly, I don't say Firefox or Opera is bad or should be avoided to use. They are very good browsers infact. I say I just don't buy the entire "freedom" campaign for another commercial company. Being free from one and be slave to other does not change a thing.
Look, I'm on design and management process of my country's most browsed technology & computer based site. We inform people about goods and bads , securities and all the other things. Especially from people who has no idea about computer up to pro's. Now let's look at the fact, 75% of my users prefer IE. 45% of them uses IE7 as their browsing, 30% of them still in IE6. 23% of Firefox and rest are Opera, Safari etc.
I strongly suggest people if they prefer to use IE, at least upgrade to IE7 for security purposes not just at browsing, even they use other browsers, I suggest them to "at least install" IE7 over IE6's OS based security gaps even not to use it.
Now 30% is big number. 30% means at least over 33K of 100K people that visit me daily does not see my pages good. I would not design my website say like "fitting 1280x" wide just because it is almost minimum at today's technology. My viewers use 50% 1024x768 resolution. It is exactly the same. As I can not force my visitors to buy brandnew graphics adapters or monitors to support it, I can't tell them what to install, other than recommendation of 3 browsers and informing about their good sides.
Especially with biased campaigns such as this (Iran downloaded Firefox more than China and India, who buys that?) and often anti-Microsoft campaign, it turn into fanatism fest. When you author IE article (such as IE7Pro extension) you are blamed to be bought by Microsoft or don't know a **** etc. so that is sickening... And two faced, imagine 98% of my users are using Windows and 98% of comments to articles "how sucky windows is", then don't use it for God's sake. If Linux is best according you, go and use it, why don't you do it?
Other than that, people repeats same thing over and over, just "propoganda" campaigns and know nothing deeper in those. There is a proverb here, "Give the credit who deserve" , yes, Firefox is a good browser and yes, IE7 is also a good browser, and yes, Opera is also a good browser. You can use whatever fits you most if you are an end-user. As for designers, we ought to use them all.
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