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taropatch Posted - 27 September 2006 : 23:05:33
Lots of posts recently about spammers hitting various forums' members. I searched and found many different mods to deal with it.

  1. Antispam Registration Add-On 1.0 vs. CAPTCHA - Anti spam
    Does one have an advantage over the other?

  2. MarcelG's MOD: anti-spam E-mail filter 1.1 vs. Sonic's spamserver lock (admin pannel)
    Do these perform a similar function?


  3. GateKeeper - Antispam
    Anyone using this? Do your forum members mind answering the question to send out email?


  4. Anyone willing to share which mod(s) you're using? Would be good to know what combinations you're liking and finding effective. You may prefer to email me rather than post what your doing publicly
Right now, I've got the Antispam Registration Add-On. I'm going to upgrade to 3.4.06 and want to step up my anti-spam efforts. Also considering Rui's Blocking forum email spam. Any others I'm missing? Thanks in advance.

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bobby131313 Posted - 15 November 2006 : 17:36:54


The GateKeeper mod does just that.

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Lon Posted - 15 November 2006 : 10:50:37
I use the Antispam Registration Add-On MOD which works well for preventing BOTS from registering accounts.

How hard would it be to add this feature when a users sends mail to another? This would help prevent BOTS.

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HuwR Posted - 07 November 2006 : 04:13:44
MarshalMix,

do you have another email address that does not go through Godaddy, they are being a bunch of ****ers and have wrongly blacklisted my mailservers, even after repeated requests to remove them they just refuse to answer my emails. NO other blacklist contains my server IP's other than godaddy they are just being total arses.<
bobby131313 Posted - 06 November 2006 : 23:36:38
quote:
I was more interested in pointing out that it is very difficult to use simple security methods with public code.

If we were talking about hackers you would be correct.

It is very simple to stop most of the spammers with the Gatekeeper mod. One simple question that can be changed occasionally stops all the bots, which, at least on my forum, is 98% of them. We get very few manual spammers. Add Rui's mod and that stops 99% of the email spammers dead in their tracks, even if they sign up manually. So all that only leaves a very occasional manual spam post from a manual signup. Haven't had one in about 3 months. All this is accomplished very simply in about 30 minutes.





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bobby131313 Posted - 06 November 2006 : 23:15:41
quote:
The difference is????

Huge.

Spammers are a nuisance that can be cleaned up, hackers can physically destroy your forum.
quote:
Most spammers are hackers.

Not hardly. Most are not. It's easy to be a spammer (just sign up for a forum and start sending it) , very difficult to be a hacker.


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bobby131313 Posted - 06 November 2006 : 23:06:08
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The real problem, as I see it, is to get the safety into the code without making it obvious to the hackers what you are doing


We're not talking about hackers here, we're talking about spammers.

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bobby131313 Posted - 06 November 2006 : 19:19:05
It's just a robot that uses preset parameters (ie; forum brand, version, etc...) to find and register for forums, then make spam posts. Totally automated, but if you throw one little extra step in there it fouls them up.

Here is one of the main users/abusers...

http://seo-promotion.org/product2.htm

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philwhite Posted - 06 November 2006 : 13:25:29
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Originally posted by HuwR

yes, "forum Poster" is what prompted us, there is a simple way to fool it, just add yourself a hidden field in post.asp which you then check for in post_info.asp, that should stop them.


We've just been hit by Forum Poster for the first time. Can you explain a little more exactly?
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MarkJH Posted - 21 October 2006 : 08:41:26
Ooh, cool. I'll look into that. I'm 'lucky' enough to be one of the nine or so available Snitz forums in the unregistered version. <
HuwR Posted - 21 October 2006 : 06:58:02
yes, "forum Poster" is what prompted us, there is a simple way to fool it, just add yourself a hidden field in post.asp which you then check for in post_info.asp, that should stop them.<
MarkJH Posted - 21 October 2006 : 05:42:19
I've had problems recently with members posting with something called Forum Poster. Apparently, it'll register and post at thousands of forums at the same time.

Is this the kind of thing your trialling against, HuwR? If so, are things advancing? I really don't want to add CAPTCHAs or unwieldy email filters if it can be helped.<
HuwR Posted - 28 September 2006 : 16:00:57
most of them have noise in the background to make it difficult for them to be copied in the same way that captchas work with images, unfortunately that makes them very difficult for ordinary people to hear and decipher too <
RArch Posted - 28 September 2006 : 15:11:59
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Originally posted by HuwR

quote:
Originally posted by RArch

I've come across CAPTCHA's that have an option to speak the characters too, would that meet WC3 approval?



not really no, have you ever tried listening to them ? the W3C recommendation is not to use captchas at all



lol no, but I will the next time I see one
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HuwR Posted - 28 September 2006 : 14:16:41
quote:
Originally posted by RArch

I've come across CAPTCHA's that have an option to speak the characters too, would that meet WC3 approval?



not really no, have you ever tried listening to them ? the W3C recommendation is not to use captchas at all<
RArch Posted - 28 September 2006 : 13:51:31
I've come across CAPTCHA's that have an option to speak the characters too, would that meet WC3 approval?
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