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| s80ts0465 |
Posted - 27 September 2005 : 03:43:45
Many times happend that during writing a new post somebody come back of the page, so he lost everything wrote.
Is is possible to save what typed in a cookye file, so to have the possibility to retrive the message?
bye ste< |
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| philwhite |
Posted - 30 September 2005 : 06:30:25
I did that for a while on my test box and found that I ended up spawning dozens (well, more than 4) of windows (because I tended to carry out further searches out of the spawned windows).
Now I tend to open the default page in one tab (Firefox), the search form in a second tab and open results from the search in new windows (which I then close down as soon as I've finished with them). Unless, of course, I forget...< |
| HuwR |
Posted - 29 September 2005 : 14:28:09
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I've gotten in the habbit of opening the search in a new window if I need to cross-reference something from another topic.
Yes, I also do that, maybe a suggestion would be to change the target for search in the menu, so searching would not wipe out your post< |
| philwhite |
Posted - 29 September 2005 : 14:21:50
You have more self-discipline than I.
Or, of course, you have lost even more text than I.< |
| AnonJr |
Posted - 29 September 2005 : 14:21:46
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Originally posted by HuwR
To be honest I allways copy anything I am typing if I navigate away, just in case  . It is a matter of education, you soon get fed up with losing what you wrote, so copying becomes second nature eventually.
Big ditto on that!
I've gotten in the habbit of opening the search in a new window if I need to cross-reference something from another topic.< |
| HuwR |
Posted - 29 September 2005 : 14:15:10
To be honest I allways copy anything I am typing if I navigate away, just in case . It is a matter of education, you soon get fed up with losing what you wrote, so copying becomes second nature eventually.< |
| philwhite |
Posted - 29 September 2005 : 14:09:03
I'm surprised that the original question generated so much confusion, as several of my users have asked me the same question. It appears to be primarily an issue with Firefox. (I just tried it with this message on this forum. IE allows you to use the back and forward buttons without any problems, and any text typed in an INPUT or FORMAREA field is retained. Firefox loses the text.)
I'm not sure exactly what Firefox is doing, but it doesn't appear to be calling the server/proxy cache. I'm on a dialup line here, and it takes several seconds to load a long page, even if I return to it through normal navigation within a short period. If I use the back button in Firefox, it's there immediately (even if my router has dropped the line), but without the FORMAREA content.
Many of our users spend several hours composing replies, and most do it in Word, to the extent that I've given some of them a macro to convert the most common simple formatting (bold, italic etc.) into forum code.
As everybody has said so far, use Notepad (or another editor) and the clipboard.
But it's still annoying after spending some time composing a reply to suddenly think "didn't we discuss this a few weeks ago", go to the search form and then find that you've lost what you've written. Happens to me all the time, even though I'm aware of the problem.< |
| HuwR |
Posted - 29 September 2005 : 12:46:49
No, using the back/forward button in IE issues a javascript (client side) history.go and will therefore fetch the page from your PC's cache, it will not send a request to the server. The cache settings in your page (pragma-cache etc) do not affect this in any way whatsoever, the cache setting in your page determines whether the request for the initial page comes from the servers/proxy cache or not, the two caches are not the same.
How Firefox deals with it's back button may indeed be different, it may re-issue the page request rather than do a javascript history call, in which case Firefox will rely on the server/proxy cache for the page< |
| Shaggy |
Posted - 29 September 2005 : 12:22:03
Oh, ay, definitely not a Snitz issue.
While, theoretically, all browsers should behave the same way if it were a server setting, we know from past experience that not all browsers bahave the same way when it comes to different things. For example (an example only, I've got nothing to back it up with  ), if the server, or indeed the scripts themselves, forced a browser to reload a page rather than read it from cache, it's could be possible that IE ignores that when back or forward are used.
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| HuwR |
Posted - 29 September 2005 : 12:14:39
converseley, if it was the server, all different browsers would behave the same , one thing for sure though, it is not the forum< |
| Shaggy |
Posted - 29 September 2005 : 12:11:23
Been thinking about this while formatting a very boring document here and I don't think this "problem" is 100% down to the browser, I think it may be a combination of the browser and the server's cache settings. For example, using Firefox on these forums, I'll lose form entries when navigating around using the back and forward buttons but not on any of my own forums even with "out of the zip" forums where the only difference would be the server, this behaviour isn't consistent. If it was down to the browser then it's behaviour in relation to "remembering" form entries should be the same for all forms on all sites.
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| s80ts0465 |
Posted - 28 September 2005 : 13:42:39
ruirib is right
i've understood.
i've to train peoples.
thanks a lot anyway
bye ste< |
| AnonJr |
Posted - 28 September 2005 : 08:49:55
quote:
Originally posted by ruirib
My advice, no joke: tell users to use IE. If they want to use something else, tell them they should not navigate out of the page before posting.
I've seen IE behave that way too... like HuwR said, its a browser function - and probably depends on what you have enabled/disabled. As mentioned before, since the back button pulls from the browser's cache, any code you put in there won't execute.< |
| ruirib |
Posted - 28 September 2005 : 08:31:25
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Originally posted by Shaggy
Again probably misunderstanding but are you wanting to allow members use their browsers back button to return to the post they just made in order to edit it? Because you're not going to be able to accomplish that in this manner, you're going to end up with a new post each time a member does that. Can they not just edit their posts from topic.asp?
It doesn't look like that. Looks like the back button is pressed before the post was submitted.
I repeat as Huw stated, that's the way browsers work. If the browser keeps the data for you, good, otherwise you're lost. You could probably add a couple buttons to the browser, to copy the text to the clipboard and to paste it back from the clipboard again, but these buttons would need to be clicked before navigating out of the page and after navigation back to the page.
My advice, no joke: tell users to use IE. If they want to use something else, tell them they should not navigate out of the page before posting.< |
| Shaggy |
Posted - 28 September 2005 : 08:13:44
Again probably misunderstanding but are you wanting to allow members use their browsers back button to return to the post they just made in order to edit it? Because you're not going to be able to accomplish that in this manner, you're going to end up with a new post each time a member does that. Can they not just edit their posts from topic.asp?
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| s80ts0465 |
Posted - 28 September 2005 : 08:06:40
quote:
Originally posted by ruirib
quote:
Originally posted by s80ts0465
mhh.....
i need to save the message after a backbotton, not after form submission.
What is the situation? You're typing the post, press back button, then try to get to the posting page again to continue posting?
yes exactly ! and i'd like to not loose what i typed before< |
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