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D3mon Posted - 13 December 2004 : 13:55:08
Thinking about 'diving in' again this winter for another round of changes to Speedball (currently at version 2)

Projected changes might be:

  • Another pass over the code for bandwidth savings

  • SEO optimisations (courtesy of ASPWiz) whihc have proved very successful on my own forums

  • Optimizing the CSS a little more

  • removing some of the nested table structure where possible, replacing it with a more CSS-focussed layout

  • Updates as suggested by helpful members since release of Speedball2

  • Snitz 3.4.05 updates and fixes

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D3mon Posted - 15 March 2013 : 08:35:18
Latest work now on GitHub: https://github.com/gavincox/snitz-speedball-pro
D3mon Posted - 25 February 2013 : 07:18:48
Still working on this. Progress is slow but sure. Will be looking to push out an alpha version soon for testing purposes (but definitely not production server use).
AnonJr Posted - 15 February 2013 : 16:38:12
quote:
Originally posted by D3mon

I realise it is a significant number of years later, but is there any interest for Speedball 3/Pro out there in 2013 :)
Looks like all the other projects stalled while I've been away...

Sure, why not? I know I was inspired by the lack of a more current Speedball to start a CSS/optimization project. Sadly it stalled frequently (and most recently early last year) as the work at my day job has piled in.
D3mon Posted - 15 February 2013 : 05:40:12
Code output from default.asp

I only plan on aggressively optimising the main pages: default.asp/active.asp/forum.asp/topic.asp

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1. *Almost* validates HTML5
2. CSS powered
3. HTML Compressed (enabled/disabled by config.asp setting)


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Trying to figure out an issue with HTML5 validation of the META copyright tag required by Snitz....
golfmann Posted - 14 February 2013 : 21:16:13
yea, sure....

anything to improve and why not? :)
D3mon Posted - 14 February 2013 : 18:56:34
I realise it is a significant number of years later, but is there any interest for Speedball 3/Pro out there in 2013 :)
Looks like all the other projects stalled while I've been away...
philwhite Posted - 03 September 2005 : 06:36:35
Hi, D3mon,
For some reason, your newforums link has been down for a while. Any chance of an updated beta/pre-beta release so that I can have a look at some integration issues for the site redesign I'm working on (painfully slowly). I've just started switching a pretty extensive site from hardwired HTML and tables to dynamic, managed content and DIV + CSS, and I reckon your approach would slot in just nicely.

Thanks for all your efforts!<
AnonJr Posted - 19 August 2005 : 16:08:27
quote:
Originally posted by D3mon

so long as it's usage remains within the boundaries of the existing Snitz Open Source-type restrictions.



With the gains I've gotten from this software, I wouldn't dream of doing otherwise!

One of the big things I was wanting was CSS support. I was going to use the CSS w/ Style Changer (I don't have where I got it with me at the moment..), and I came across this. I like this a lot better as it uses a more current version of the base code.

However, I am working on adding the Style Changer control panel to this so I can edit the styles from a control panel instead of editing the stylesheet directly. I'll let you know how it goes... I know all about slow progress (and frequent interuptions..)
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D3mon Posted - 18 August 2005 : 16:51:25
Progress is slow at the moment, the latest version is up at www.buildyourown.org.uk/newforums/ for developement testing. I've no problems with it being used for your project, so long as it's usage remains within the boundaries of the existing Snitz Open Source-type restrictions.<
AnonJr Posted - 18 August 2005 : 11:40:19
quote:
Originally posted by D3mon

Here is a pre-beta build.


I was curious if this has been updated with the latest work, and where development stands at the present time?

It appears with this that you have done some of what I was wanting to do (namely the CSS, bandwith savings, and latest updates).

I would like, with your permission, to use this as the (new) starting point for my LMS (Learning Mangement System) project.<
wii Posted - 11 July 2005 : 04:32:18
The mainpage does validate, not the other pages (yet) - looks good.<
D3mon Posted - 11 July 2005 : 04:00:02
I hadn't tried the validation yet (usually leave that to the end of the project) but I'm glad its almost there!<
wii Posted - 11 July 2005 : 02:29:31
And it validates too - fantastic !!!!!!!!

Try it at:

http://validator.w3.org/<
StephenD Posted - 10 July 2005 : 19:40:51
Awesome! Extremely fast.<
MarkJH Posted - 10 July 2005 : 19:04:39
Looks fantastic. Runs amazingly.

I take my hat off to you, D3mon. <

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