Coming End of Windows Era? - Posted (1764 Views)
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I thought this is an interesting article on Windows... Basically saying Vista sucks and MS in a big trouble??
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/what-comes-after-windows-era<
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From the Linux Journal? Well... that says it, no?
Vista is not as bad as it's touted, though not as good as MS said it would be, either. The sheer number of Windows installs and the need for people and corporations to protect their investments in the platform means, IMHO, that we'll be with it for quite, quite long. It also says XP is good enough for people to want to keep it!
There was one known columnist, a well known name that I can't remember now, that had predicted that, due to the sheer number of code lines, Microsoft would never pull XP (not sure about it, could have been Win2K) into production. You know what happened, don't you?<
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Microsoft conducted an experiment dealing with people's preconceived notions concerning Vista. They called it the Mojave Experiment. It's pretty interesting.
http://www.mojaveexperiment.com/?WT.srch=1<
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Except the Mojave Experiment is a little disingenuous. It doesn't include the joys of hooking a Vista computer up to a router that has security enabled and is not broadcasting its SSID. It doesn't include the joys of trying to explain to your mother why the printer she bought last year won't work. It doesn't include trying to explain to your 12-year-old sister why her "Horses" game won't play. It also didn't include trying to run Halo 3 on the on the cheap "Vista Capable" PCs that the typical home buyer is purchasing.
Before you lambaste me with various personal stories, bear in mind that if you are here and a regular modding member of the Snitz community, then you are not the typical, average user. And that makes all the difference.<
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While Vista may be better than most think, that isn't important. It's like the stock market, if people think there's a depression, there's a depression regardless of what is actually happening. What will keep Microsoft on the desktop is people are unwilling to change and proprietary document formats will lose their full formatting without Microsoft.<
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Before you lambaste me with various personal stories, bear in mind that if you are here and a regular modding member of the Snitz community, then you are not the typical, average user. And that makes all the difference.
No lambasting here... but there are issues that are the hardware's makers responsability. The printer driver is one. For one reason or another, it may be assigned to MS nonetheless. I do think they were not able to properly know what people were really expecting from the OS. I know they run usability labs and such, but I wonder what comes out of that, since they really don't seem to use that a lot, or the people they choose are really not representative of the multitude of different skilled Windows users. What I find really amusing is that you object to "power" users, but has the competition really done anything closer to MS on addressing non power users?<
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I think you misunderstand. I don't object to power users, its just that most of the people that I've found that have little or no trouble with Vista are power users - the very people who have the patience and understanding to work around/through the various issues and who are more likely to have the kind of hardware that Vista can make use of. Power users are the people I tend to debate the subject with, and often seem to be blissfully unaware just how big the gap is between power users and the general computing public.
Also, please don't hear what I'm not saying - Vista isn't the horrid train wreck that most contend it is. However, the "Mojave Experiment" takes Vista a little too far out of the real world that people are forced to contend with it in. Vista has its problems, and in a lot of ways its one step forward and two steps back.

In a lot of ways it is the evidence of just how important it was for Windows to be one man's vision. You can't get a "Gates by committee" OS. Can you imagine if Apple suddenly went from Jobs to 8 layers of management with perpetual meetings? Oh, we already saw something similar when the board thought there wasn't a big difference between running a computer company and running a Cola business. tongue<
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AnonJr: Anything you have given as examples are not fault of Vista's... Anything that has been made for old technology unless they update their capabilities to work with new ones are SUBJECT to die. This is not different than saying "Why does my program at 3.5" FDD can not be installed anymore" or "Why does my Warcraft 1 does not work at Windows XP" , Why does my Amiga joystick does not run at PC etc. As for printer example, it is printer vendor's fault not to make drivers for Vista. XP was no different when it came out.
There can be found many many excuses to throw **** on a new software.<
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Originally posted by AnonJr
I think you misunderstand. I don't object to power users, its just that most of the people that I've found that have little or no trouble with Vista are power users - the very people who have the patience and understanding to work around/through the various issues and who are more likely to have the kind of hardware that Vista can make use of. Power users are the people I tend to debate the subject with, and often seem to be blissfully unaware just how big the gap is between power users and the general computing public.
I don't think I did, I just wanted to point that, as non power users are concerned, don't really know any OS that deals with them any better, at least OSes that don't run on proprietary hardware (not that I know OS X - last time I used an Apple was about 18 years ago).
Personally, I don't like Vista that much. Some experiences with my wife's laptop haven't been very stimulating. Also, for my own personal use, I still use too many gadgets without drivers for Vista, so I'll happily stick with XP.<
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XP was no different when it came out.

I have XP and 99% of my programs have this tab available....


I will just say this about Microsoft, they are very good at getting away with beta testing their new stuff on paying customers. If a car company tried to pull that crap they'd fold faster than Superman on laundry day.<
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