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Webbo
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  07:46:11  Show Profile  Visit Webbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ive had this reply from Microsoft:

quote:
This IP is not eligible for mitigation at this time. Establishing and maintaining good sending reputation is an ongoing process, not a one-time fix. It takes time to improve IP reputation and careful vigilance in monitoring your email systems to maintain it. Here are some additional security measures for you to consider which may help you detect and address compromises to your mail systems or abnormal sending behavior more quickly and therefore reduce the likelihood of your mail traffic being negatively:

<edited to remove blurb>




Basically what they are saying is that as the IP address is new'ish as the server was brand new out of a box and assigned the IP address, until it's been around long enough to gain a reputation above and beyond their requirements we can't successfully email their Office365 users


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HuwR
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  07:59:55  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
So basically, everyone is a spammer unless you can prove otherwise

MVC .net dev/test site | MVC .net running on Raspberry Pi
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Webbo
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  08:00:21  Show Profile  Visit Webbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oh, and all our outgoing email is using SMTP Authentication
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Webbo
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  08:01:32  Show Profile  Visit Webbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That appears to be the case Huw, or is it more sinister - you can send email if you subscribe to their Office365 service
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HuwR
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  08:27:36  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ok, I have registered for their 'Smart Network Data service' to see if I can monitor emails to their servers from mine, so maybe that will help, who knows.

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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  08:47:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's working again, HuwR. Received the email.
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HuwR
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  09:43:18  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
well, ain't that odd considering I have done bugger all and they said it wasn't a problem ????? hmmmm
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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  10:09:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I guess submitting the form got someone over there to actually check. It's like internet providers whose help desks claim there's no problem ... but magically, when they "check" the modem remotely, the issue is resolved.
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Webbo
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  13:42:11  Show Profile  Visit Webbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Likewise I'm enrolled in their SNDS so we'll see what happens.

It's a bu66er though when you have to jump through hoops to try to send someone an email because someone else decrees you're not worthy. It'll be easier to bring back the fax machine or stick a stamp on it before long
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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  14:58:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Unless your postal workers act like those in the USA.... There's a reason they call insane behavior "going postal". Fax machine may be the safer, albeit more expensive, method.
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Webbo
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  15:02:49  Show Profile  Visit Webbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Oooh the irony.... a confirmation email re my enrolment into Microsoft's SNDS ended up in my Junk Mail folder
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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 17 November 2015 :  21:18:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Once MS sent me a message about a new spam filter ... and their spam filter sent it right to the junk. LOL Appropriate
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Webbo
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Posted - 18 November 2015 :  02:22:02  Show Profile  Visit Webbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
....and we used to think AOL was bad

I received the emails re the Chat Room and will look into it at my end, thanks
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Webbo
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Posted - 25 November 2015 :  17:04:46  Show Profile  Visit Webbo's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well after a lot of hassle and fuss I finally got the following email from Microsoft in response to a lengthy one I sent including a message from our hosts confirming no spam was being sent from the server...

quote:
Hello,



We have received response from Antispam team and they resolved your issue.



Thank you again for contacting Microsoft Online Services technical support and giving us the opportunity to serve you.



Sincerely,

Sumeet Bagde

Microsoft Online Services Technical Support



Alleluia, at last, and all emails seem to be being received now by their recipients
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Carefree
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Posted - 26 November 2015 :  09:37:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AOL was worse, especially for the forgetful seniors. My elderly customers would call and cancel their AOL subscriptions, but AOL would continue billing them, often for years. The old people would consider the cost of hiring a lawyer to intercede would be more than they were losing to AOL, and just let it go. I know at least 50 of my elderly customers near Cleveland OH * appx 25 USD per month ... now multiply that times the hundreds of thousands that AOL probably bilked each year, and it adds up to a vast amount of money.
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