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pierretopping
Junior Member

United Kingdom
224 Posts

Posted - 17 July 2014 :  17:37:05  Show Profile  Visit pierretopping's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thanks carefree. I take it would just be a matter of digging up the correct setup file for the mode and running that before hand to ensure that the new fields are populated in the correct tables?

Great work man :-)
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Carefree
Advanced Member

Philippines
4207 Posts

Posted - 18 July 2014 :  22:53:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Someone (probably me) will have to compare all of the dbs files to the actual tables. More than 90% of them will be fine, but there are a few new fields in various tables which I had to add for corrections and/or improvements to some existing mods. I usually posted about them but not always.
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Carefree
Advanced Member

Philippines
4207 Posts

Posted - 18 July 2014 :  23:19:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For the testers, if you haven't already figured it out, do not run "setup.asp". Instead, extract the zip file to your desired folder, browse to it and sign in. You can change the admin account name using the "Name Changer" mod and change the admin account password using the "Pass Reset - Forum Admin" mod.

User: Admin
Pass: admin

The following folders need to have write permissions set for the IUSR, IIS_IUSRS, and NETWORK SERVICE accounts:
  • adverts
  • album
  • chatroom
  • dbase
  • flashchat
  • photos
  • topics
  • uploads
Some things are pre-configured (e.g., Usergroups: "Members", "Minors", & "Prisoners") and should not be deleted or edited if those mods are turned on. Also there are a few with requirements (e.g., "weblogs" forum needs to have the word "weblogs" in its title). To be aware of these, read the help descriptions of each mod before using it.

Also, although there are links within the mod management page, if the mods are not enabled, currently the pages will return you to the mod management page instead of opening. I will change that today and replace the download file on my server.

Edit: I changed it so that if the link to the file is from the mod management page, it will open (regardless if the mod is enabled). If you prefer the previous method (forcing you to go back and enable the mod first), you have to change two characters on "includes/inc_func_common.asp".
Look for the following lines (appx 3713-3714):

'	If fString <> "1" Then
	If (fString <> "1" and strSFile<>"admin_mod_mgt.asp") Then

Change them to read:

	If fString <> "1" Then
'	If (fString <> "1" and strSFile<>"admin_mod_mgt.asp") Then

Edited by - Carefree on 19 July 2014 00:31:38
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richfed
Average Member

United States
999 Posts

Posted - 19 July 2014 :  14:53:37  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am going to attempt to test this on my computer, hopefully later today. Where are the new files located for download? Did I miss that part somewhere? As for using it "live," I would upload all the files - change database string, run dbs files and then turn on/off all the mods? Would it be that simple?
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richfed
Average Member

United States
999 Posts

Posted - 19 July 2014 :  15:54:10  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
OK ... first issue ...I proceeded THROUGH Step 6 - It seems though, I cannot download my forum from my server into the folder that opens. I guess that leaves the 2nd option? I am downloading my forum to my desktop. Once I get that done ... where is the .zip. I don't seem to see it on SnitzBitz. I must be doing something wrong. I don't need my remote forum files, do I!?
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Carefree
Advanced Member

Philippines
4207 Posts

Posted - 19 July 2014 :  21:38:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Outgoing internet connection here is too slow to upload a file of this size (just over 100 MB, since it contains avatars, flash games, etc.) into SnitzBitz. Since SnitzBitz doesn't show the progress of uploads, I cannot tell if the upload will time out. Thus I've chosen to put it on Google Drive instead.

Edited by - Carefree on 02 November 2014 02:32:29
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richfed
Average Member

United States
999 Posts

Posted - 20 July 2014 :  16:42:44  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Alright ... I have the files downloaded and I put them in the inetpub\wwwroot directory. I had already completed the instructions through Step 6, but the site does not show, so I followed the instructions for a virtual path ... which is now inetpub\wwwroot\Forum I then performed Step 7 and finally, Step 8. I get this message in my IE browser: "An error occurred on the server when processing the URL. Please contact the system administrator.
If you are the system administrator please click here to find out more about this error." I tried adding default.asp to the address and then I jut get a blank page. I am using Windows 8.1 64-bit. When I click on finding out about this error, I am brought to this page: http://www.iis.net/learn/application-frameworks/running-classic-asp-applications-on-iis-7-and-iis-8
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HuwR
Forum Admin

United Kingdom
20584 Posts

Posted - 20 July 2014 :  17:29:35  Show Profile  Visit HuwR's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Have you enabled 32 bit application support under IIS? That is most likely the problem, You also need to enable asp support if you have not done so already, needs to be installed as a windows component, not sure exactly how that is done on 8.1, but try install programs in the control panel.

MVC .net dev/test site | MVC .net running on Raspberry Pi
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richfed
Average Member

United States
999 Posts

Posted - 20 July 2014 :  19:38:27  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes, I followed the instructions for all that and double-checked today to be sure. All looks correct. This is probably above my pay grade. :-)
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Carefree
Advanced Member

Philippines
4207 Posts

Posted - 20 July 2014 :  21:51:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Above my pay grade" (sounds like ex-military, heard it a lot in the service).

I ran into the exact same thing on another 8.1 computer recently. Everything is properly set, a simple asp test page is properly displayed, but it doesn't seem to like the forum. There's something else happening. It might be related to not having MS Office installed, may have to use a DSN connection to the database.

I remember, vaguely, reading something about MS changing (or removing) the Access drivers from 8.1 64-bit. Apparently, they limited connections to accdb databases. There is a work-around (there's a file to download which adds the 32-bit mdb driver to the 64-bit 8.1 Windows, but I cannot remember where I read about it. This might be the file: 8.1 Access Drivers. According to Microsoft, there is a file to run included with the OS. Go to start/run, type "%windir%\SysWOW64\odbcad32.exe" and hit enter. That will supposedly create the 32-bit drivers which are missing by default.

In the meantime, I made a accdb version of the database and uploaded it separately. Try replacing the .mdb with it and changing the connection string accordingly.

I'll test this on another Win 7 and another Win 8 machine today, see if there are any problems.

Edited by - Carefree on 21 July 2014 00:46:29
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader

Australia
2084 Posts

Posted - 21 July 2014 :  03:40:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IIS works fine for me on Windows 8.1. Just need to make sure that you make sure that the "Enable 32-Bit Applications" is set to "True" in the application pool..

Cheers,

David Greening
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Carefree
Advanced Member

Philippines
4207 Posts

Posted - 21 July 2014 :  05:46:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's not a question of IIS enabling ASP as it is a question of database connectivity. If you'll go back a few posts, you'll see I describe how to enable 32 bit applications, so I am aware that it's needed for 64-bit operating systems.
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richfed
Average Member

United States
999 Posts

Posted - 21 July 2014 :  13:58:39  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
FYI -- I do have MS Office installed -- the 365 complete suite.

I will try your suggestions sometime in the next day or so. Thanks, Carefree.
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Carefree
Advanced Member

Philippines
4207 Posts

Posted - 21 July 2014 :  19:55:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by richfed

FYI -- I do have MS Office installed -- the 365 complete suite.

I will try your suggestions sometime in the next day or so. Thanks, Carefree.



You're welcome.

In Windows 8.1, installing the 64-bit version of Office apparently does not automatically add the 32-bit database drivers which is odd since adding the database drivers doesn't seem to harm performance in any way. Don't know why MS decided they weren't going to be needed any longer...another decision that has proven inaccurate.
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader

Australia
2084 Posts

Posted - 21 July 2014 :  20:07:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I never had to install the drivers and it worked first go.
quote:
Originally posted by Carefree

In Windows 8.1, installing the 64-bit version of Office apparently does not automatically add the 32-bit database drivers which is odd since adding the database drivers doesn't seem to harm performance in any way. Don't know why MS decided they weren't going to be needed any longer...another decision that has proven inaccurate.


If you have a look at the comment by HuwR that was all I needed to do to have IIS working on my Windows 8.1 with Snitz Forums 2000 and an Access DB as the back-end:
quote:
Originally posted by HuwR

Have you enabled 32 bit application support under IIS? That is most likely the problem

So unless there was some wired install of Windows 8.1 it should of worked even without installing MS Office. Just sharing what I have done in the past.

Cheers,

David Greening
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