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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 21 March 2014 :  07:57:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This package will not allow mods to be added in that manner - unless they are stand-alone files which simply require a menu item. Anything which integrates into other pages necessitates changes.

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AnonJr
Moderator

United States
5768 Posts

Posted - 21 March 2014 :  09:02:58  Show Profile  Visit AnonJr's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It is a good idea for consideration though - just a much harder one to implement than most realize.

Carefree, I keep forgetting to send you some stuff I've worked on in a similar manner... hopefully I'll remember this time when I get home.
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Carefree
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Philippines
4207 Posts

Posted - 21 March 2014 :  10:54:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've worked on other software in a modular concept way back in the Commodore days; helped write a BBS program and tons of mods which used machine language for the top menu and all the applications overlaid it starting at line 1000.

In order to do something like that, though, you have to design the entire application from the ground up to support it. Starting with a full blown system and trying to code in things as "plug-ins" (that term didn't exist in the Commodore days), is a lot more complicated.
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Carefree
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Philippines
4207 Posts

Posted - 02 April 2014 :  19:21:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, more than 130 mods are integrated; still have a long way to go. As more mods are incorporated into files like "members.asp", "forum.asp" and "topic.asp", especially, they take much longer to accomplish because of so many mods to de-conflict. After they are all coded in accordance with the individual instructions (modified to fit the modular approach); all the new pages have to be checked to make sure they won't load when their respective mods are disabled. When THAT is finished, testing can begin in earnest.

I still intend to release it in April (won't make that goal) May, provided that we get enough people willing to test. With roughly 300 mods, there is a lot of room for errors ... so we will need volunteers to help find bugs before this is finalized.

Here's a snapshot of part of the mod management page. It's growing a bit and wouldn't be legible if I shrank the size enough to display it all.


Edited by - Carefree on 07 May 2014 11:47:24
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pierretopping
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United Kingdom
224 Posts

Posted - 03 April 2014 :  13:25:12  Show Profile  Visit pierretopping's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Great work, count me in for testing :-)
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richfed
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United States
999 Posts

Posted - 07 April 2014 :  13:13:36  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I would be happy to test it -- even with my limited capabilities.

Question - not so much for testing - but later. Will this work if applied over an existing forum, using the same database [MS-SQL]?
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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 07 April 2014 :  20:55:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Question - not so much for testing - but later. Will this work if applied over an existing forum, using the same database [MS-SQL]?

You'll have to incorporate ALL of the new tables (and new fields within existing tables), then it'd just be a matter of adding the new folders, new pages, and swapping the existing pages. But you should be able to keep all your existing posts, etc.

We're going to be doing some exhaustive testing first, though. This is a very complicated project. Right now I'm developing it all on a laptop using http://localhost so anyone with IIS6 or later should be able to test it.

Edited by - Carefree on 07 April 2014 20:56:24
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richfed
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United States
999 Posts

Posted - 11 April 2014 :  13:08:04  Show Profile  Visit richfed's Homepage  Reply with Quote
That is just fantastic, Carefree!
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Carefree
Advanced Member

Philippines
4207 Posts

Posted - 11 April 2014 :  23:45:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Glad you like the idea. Now, if only I didn't screw it up too badly....
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skyhook
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Italy
1 Posts

Posted - 12 April 2014 :  06:25:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good job. Keep me in consideration for beta testing.

mt
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StephenD
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Australia
1044 Posts

Posted - 13 April 2014 :  03:50:19  Show Profile  Send StephenD a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Looks great!
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DJGray
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USA
68 Posts

Posted - 14 April 2014 :  17:18:49  Show Profile  Visit DJGray's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Carefree, this is an amazing piece of work, and I have to believe it is a labor of love. You don't engage a task like this without a fair level of passion behind it. I recognize that we are all geeks, and I find great satisfaction in building something (usually at work) and seeing it do exactly what I want it to do.

Years ago, I had a friend whose hobby was to go to schools or used bookstores and buy algebra textbooks, and solve the problems in the back of the book. He loved it!!

What you're doing is kind of like that.

Thank you so much for your efforts!!
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Carefree
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Philippines
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Posted - 16 April 2014 :  17:53:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When it is completed, tested, and pronounced usable ; I would like it to be as close to "idiot proof" out of the box as possible. So in conjunction with testing, we shall need the testers to help write documentation for using various mods (maybe just a matter of capturing some of the instructions from the posts here) that I can incorporate into a pop-up instruction file. I will link the instructions to the admin page, so they'll only be displayed if the forum admin enables the mod(s).
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golfmann
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United States
450 Posts

Posted - 17 April 2014 :  01:24:38  Show Profile  Visit golfmann's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just to rig the admin_home page to show the correctly picked stuff and options/features if and when is a daunting task.

Amazing amount of work, Carefree. Wow...
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MaGraham
Senior Member

USA
1297 Posts

Posted - 07 May 2014 :  12:35:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

This is looking very interesting! Please let me know if I can help with the testing, Carefree.


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