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Carefree
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Philippines
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 Posted - 29 June 2012 : 05:54:19
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| Did we finally solve ALL coding issues, write EVERY desired mod and prevent all spammers? Or did all the people move their questions, etc. to Facebook or Google? Sure got quiet here over the last couple months. |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 June 2012 : 13:44:35
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I think probably the latter, not much interest in forums as a web format these days, people are either more interested in twitter or facebook or having cms based sites with poor and limited implentationsof forums/blogs so not that many specialised forums around as there used to be.
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pierretopping
Junior Member
United Kingdom
224 Posts |
Posted - 29 June 2012 : 15:31:30
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| Any guess's how many Snitz forums are still used today? |
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Davio
Development Team Member
Jamaica
12217 Posts |
Posted - 29 June 2012 : 15:56:35
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Really Huw? I see forums being used a lot as a support option for commercial or open source software or products.
Facebook has it's policies that not all agree to and you can't search past topics on facebook. bleh.
Forums still has it's place. VB isn't going out of business anytime soon. Although it has expanded to a CMS type layout now. |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Classicmotorcycling
Development Team Leader
Australia
2085 Posts |
Posted - 30 June 2012 : 04:32:41
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I believe that the decline has come about due to the following few reasons (which are not good ones and not in any particular order):
1. Most have gone away from classic .asp forums for either .php (as they cannot afford Windows hosting) or dot NET sites (as they need the application for their site)
2. Some users threats of legal action to not only the poster, but the site it's self and not worth the persons time hosting the site
3. The text fights between users make others not want to join and put their comments in as they feel it will happen to them
4. Some people simply find it daunting that they need more than just the forum software, but setting up everything from hosting to the finished product and the time needed to maintain
I love my forums on the other hand and read them every day. Forums are not only great for support sites, but also for interest sites of other like-minded people.
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 30 June 2012 : 05:24:08
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My take.
1. Interest in forums has declined. I see that on some existing Snitz forums (there are many out there) and the ones that keep growing (a clear minority), have excellent management and a very active community providing excellent contributions and advice. With less strong communities, facebook has taken a severe toll.
2. Snitz is not only based on a technologically outdated platform, but we have stopped producing new releases or adding new features to the software.
My belief is that there is still space for great forum software. I don't really find anything that interesting in the asp.net world, not anything that would allow to profit from the continuous innovation that Microsoft has been adding to it's web development platform. I do agree, however, that a standalone forum is less attractive, these days. The ability to add decent forum software to a CMS or an easy way to integrate it into a .net website, would be great. |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20595 Posts |
Posted - 01 July 2012 : 05:24:46
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Rui's last point about standalone forums I definitely agree with, and after having just seamlessly integrated the current version of classic snitz into MojoPortal (excellent .Net cms, and with only a very small amount of coding was able to embed Snitz and synchronise the database so that mojo used their current Snitz members) I am currently exploring the best way to do this with the .net version of Snitz as it is a little more complex with it being a .net application itself.
I think the problem with point 2 is that to really add new features to the current code base first requires some major rework of the existing base code to update it's current output to be more standards and css compliant, which then makes peoples upgrade route with heavily modded forums quite painful. For me personally, I would rather put that time and effort into the .net version as it offers a lot more flexibility to expand the code base. |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
26364 Posts |
Posted - 01 July 2012 : 06:58:15
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So you recommend MojoPortal, Huw? I have been trying CMS packages, on and off, even testing Drupal and Joomla. Have been looking recently at Umbraco, another .net CMS but hadn't look at MojoPortal. I already saw they support Artisteer, which is a major bonus, as I own a copy, as a way to mitigate by obvious lack of design abilities. I guess I will have a look at it.
The code base, yeah, we'd need to go through some major changes go to full blown css compliant, which is really a requirement these days. I doubt that we could get enough dev people to go through such a change, which basically means that the current code base is as good as dead.
As to the .net version, what are your plans regarding release, time wise and license wise? |
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
20595 Posts |
Posted - 01 July 2012 : 07:20:18
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Yes, I would recomend it, it looks a bit scary the first time you look at it, but I have been playing with it for about a week and am liking it more and more, it comes with a lot of stuff in the core package (the forum is pretty dismal though but probably adequate for most needs, however the site I was using it for had a preexisting Snitz forum) I had to make a couple of tweeks to the base code (which is not strictly recommended, but I did it in such away as to be an easy upgrade should the bas code change) plus I have written a couple of plugin modules. Am now liking it very much, most of the others I looked at were either overly complicated or not flexible enough for my needs without a huge amount of recoding.
As for the .net version, I still have a few things I want to do to the core code (like make it properly multidb not just sql and comment it a bit better so other people can understand it  , and maybe make it more modular so it is more of a plugin than standalone but that is quite a bit of work) but once again time has caught up with me so unsure when that would be. So, am still working on it but a bit slowly at the moment. |
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ruirib
Snitz Forums Admin
Portugal
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HuwR
Forum Admin
United Kingdom
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Doug G
Support Moderator
USA
6493 Posts |
Posted - 16 July 2012 : 19:58:50
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Nice fish!
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